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Posted on 8/28/18 at 2:37 pm to Smeg
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One million Muslims are being held right now in Chinese internment camps
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they were forced to renounce Islam, criticize their own Islamic beliefs and those of fellow inmates,
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There are media reports of inmates being forced to eat pork and drink alcohol, which are forbidden to Muslims, as well as reports of torture and death.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 2:38 pm to Plx1776
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One of the very few things China is correct about.
Very dangerous way of thinking
Posted on 8/28/18 at 2:39 pm to GRTiger
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Not sure gutting out on pork and booze is a Chinese cultural norm.
That's a way to break them down, and get them to abandon islam. The belief being that without islam holding them down or disrupting societal norms, that they can assimilate into society.
It is the correct way, for China.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 2:41 pm to funnystuff
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TD “conservatives” upvote objectively terrible thing like crazy
These people are just authoritarian. Should trump push left, they'll go with him
Posted on 8/28/18 at 2:42 pm to Plx1776
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That's a way to break them down, and get them to abandon islam. The belief being that without islam holding them down or disrupting societal norms, that they can assimilate into society.
It is the correct way, for China.
You're one sadistic frick, chubbs.
Should we do it here? Has Islam impacted China more than America? The same? What's the line here?
Posted on 8/28/18 at 2:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The citizens of China are property of the government. Go figure they don’t have religious freedom.
This post was edited on 8/28/18 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 8/28/18 at 2:45 pm to funnystuff
The reason China is gaining ground is because of shite like this. There’s no welfare and Muslims aren’t allowed to blow shite up whenever they want like they are here
Posted on 8/28/18 at 2:46 pm to CoachDon
This isn’t a case of outsiders moving in en-masse and attempting to overtake the culture. These people have lived in the same place for a thousand years and became part of china as a result of conquest. Virtually no uyghurs move away from their birthplace into major urban areas.
This isn’t about protecting about their country, it’s about forceful authoritarian social engineering, something which history has found to be unequivocally ineffective. No one supporting this has any right to call themselves conservative.
This isn’t about protecting about their country, it’s about forceful authoritarian social engineering, something which history has found to be unequivocally ineffective. No one supporting this has any right to call themselves conservative.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 2:47 pm to GRTiger
quote:lol we’re not communists. If we were commies and we had no freedom then it probably would be in our best interest to outlaw Islam.
You're one sadistic frick, chubbs.
Should we do it here? Has Islam impacted China more than America? The same? What's the line here?
Posted on 8/28/18 at 2:49 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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There are media reports of inmates being forced to eat pork and drink alcohol,
Sounds like summer camp for grown ups
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which are forbidden to Muslims,
If they weren't muslims they wouldn't be forced to do it
Posted on 8/28/18 at 2:54 pm to funnystuff
Where did you get the idea that I was pro-communism?
Communism is the pet ideology of leftists and Democrats right now.
This is what they are fighting for in the streets.
This is what YOUR PEOPLE want.
Communism is the pet ideology of leftists and Democrats right now.
This is what they are fighting for in the streets.
This is what YOUR PEOPLE want.
This post was edited on 8/28/18 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 8/28/18 at 2:56 pm to Smeg
Leftists want Communism and to rid society of religion. Some on the right are mistakenly supporting this "crackdown" by China because the target is Islam but China is an equal-opportunity offender when it comes to religion. I agree that Islam is a blight on the world but disagree that it's up to the government to regulate that.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 2:57 pm to Smeg
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The sheer scale of the internment camp system, which according to The Wall Street Journal has doubled in China’s northwestern Xinjiang region just within the last year, is mindboggling.
To put this in perspective:
China has a billion people.
A million person prison camp is 0.0007% of their population.
In other words, this is the equivalent of a prison with a population of 2200 people in the United States. Less than half the size of Alcatraz. It wouldn't crack the top 15 list of largest current prisons on America when adjusting for percapita density.
This post was edited on 8/28/18 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 8/28/18 at 2:58 pm to Plx1776
These people have been living in the same place ever since Mao came into power and they haven’t put any additional strain on the Chinese culture, economy, or society. Why is their “non-assimilation” a threat today when it has been no threat in China’s past.
Outsiders are moving into Sweden, an argument for assimilation holds much more strongly there. Uyghurs aren’t outsiders im China, they have been insiders for as long as any of us have been alive. This isn’t assimilating outsiders, it’s a power hungry government exherting force to socially engineer their society to something more similar to their perspective of “ideal”. No matter what you think of the individuals they are exerting that force over, it’s a terribly dangerous mindset, and one that every conservative has a duty to resist.
Don’t let your hate for the enemy you know lead you to support the devil you don’t.
Outsiders are moving into Sweden, an argument for assimilation holds much more strongly there. Uyghurs aren’t outsiders im China, they have been insiders for as long as any of us have been alive. This isn’t assimilating outsiders, it’s a power hungry government exherting force to socially engineer their society to something more similar to their perspective of “ideal”. No matter what you think of the individuals they are exerting that force over, it’s a terribly dangerous mindset, and one that every conservative has a duty to resist.
Don’t let your hate for the enemy you know lead you to support the devil you don’t.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 3:04 pm to Smeg
I didn’t say you want communism. I said you are defending a communist regime doing communist things because they are doing it to people you don’t like. That doesn’t make you a communist, but it does make you a man without a semblance of principle. Which isn’t much better.
And for the record, communists are not my people, conservatives are. I’m refuting you because you clearly are not one of those people.
And for the record, communists are not my people, conservatives are. I’m refuting you because you clearly are not one of those people.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 3:07 pm to Smeg
most of the PT doesn't care for religious freedom unless it is their specific religion.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 3:09 pm to Smeg
Fixed it for em'. Pot meets kettle.
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"Members of the public who have been chosen for reeducation have been infected by an ideological illness. They have been infected with POLITICAL extremism and violent terrorist ideology, and therefore they must seek treatment from a hospital as an inpatient. … The Political extremist ideology - Marxism - is a type of poisonous medicine, which confuses the mind of the people. … If we do not eradicate religious extremism at its roots, the violent terrorist incidents will grow and spread all over like an incurable malignant tumor."
Posted on 8/28/18 at 3:10 pm to FooManChoo
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Muslims who have been led astray
you would probably be a muslim if you were born in the middle east.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 3:12 pm to Smeg
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forced to eat pork and drink alcohol
Please don't throw me in briar patch
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