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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Posted on 4/18/20 at 6:55 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
Posted on 4/18/20 at 6:55 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
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BurtReynoldsMustache
Nothing to add but that I'm proud of you, Ole Boy! The sky is the limit.
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:10 pm to TigeRoots
Was scheduled to do the Blue Bell 10K for 2nd year in a row this AM. Ran 56:11 last year with no real distance training, but CrossFit 4-7 days / week.
Went to the nearby park this morning and ran the virtual version. The gf ran a 9:22 pace (forgot her TT) & I finished few minutes before she did. Didn't time it so not sure what my TT was.
With all that said, I'd be okay if I never did another virtual race again.
Went to the nearby park this morning and ran the virtual version. The gf ran a 9:22 pace (forgot her TT) & I finished few minutes before she did. Didn't time it so not sure what my TT was.
With all that said, I'd be okay if I never did another virtual race again.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:19 pm to TigeRoots
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TigeRoots
As I of you, sir.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:39 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
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BurtReynoldsMustache
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TigeRoots
Hah. GAAAAAAYYYYY!!!!
This post was edited on 4/18/20 at 7:40 pm
Posted on 4/18/20 at 8:24 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
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BurtReynoldsMustache
Doing any strength training nowadays, other than push ups? I know HB's coach had him doing some strength days a couple times a week IIRC. And I saw the Ames fella mention it as well on his page. Just didn't know where you are at with it.
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GAAAAAAYYYYY!!!!
It comes with the territory; you didn't get the memo?
This post was edited on 4/18/20 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 4/18/20 at 8:48 pm to TigeRoots
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Doing any strength training nowadays, other than push ups? I know HB's coach had him doing some strength days a couple times a week IIRC. And I saw the Ames fella mention it as well on his page. Just didn't know where you are at with it.
Push ups and air squats and hills. I'm up for anything as long as it doesn't make my form fall apart. If I get slower, they get fired. No hard feelings.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 7:25 am to BurtReynoldsMustache
Well I'm bummed out this morning. I felt some pain around my knee late last night and hoped to sleep it off. Nope. Internet says it's most likely IT Band, so I guess I'll take a couple of days to rest and see how it goes from there.
I don't like skipping runs when the weather is in the 40s and sunny.
I don't like skipping runs when the weather is in the 40s and sunny.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 8:56 am to McVick
Sorry to hear that bud. Hopefully a nice day of rest will fix you right up.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 4:37 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
Anyone ever considered running a race out of the country? My wife (no pics) and I love Paris. I'd like to run the Paris marathon one day. However, I feel like I'd have to get over there a week early to get accustomed to the time change and get rid of the jet lag. Plus, there are 50,000 runners and I get annoyed when more than two or three people are in my way 
Posted on 4/19/20 at 5:43 pm to Tornado Alley
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Anyone ever considered running a race out of the country?
I'm counting on it; London 2021, Berlin 2022 or vice versa... I'm not going to hold my breath for Tokyo. They only let like 300 outsiders a year run that one.
This post was edited on 4/19/20 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 4/19/20 at 6:43 pm to Tornado Alley
Go for it, man. A co-worker ran Berlin, and she treasured the experience. I'd do an overseas marathon in a second, if I could afford it.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:06 am to JBR2132
I've been slacking the past few days. I got sucked into video game world and missed a couple of runs. I felt kind of crappy yesterday and just got in 3 miles. It was pouring this morning, so I missed a makeup run. I'm just going to try and run each day this week starting tomorrow and see where that gets me this week.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 1:32 pm to Tornado Alley
I'm planning to run Paris in 2021. Wife and I have been saving for a Europe vacation and I'm going to get a race out of it. I have co-workers that have run Paris and they have nothing but great things to say about it.
That money people does suck, but the nice thing about it is you never feel alone, always have someone to talk to if you need to pass the time, and always another person to pass.
That money people does suck, but the nice thing about it is you never feel alone, always have someone to talk to if you need to pass the time, and always another person to pass.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 1:55 pm to kballa6
2022 will probably be the earliest I can run it considering I’m going to Paris in November 2020.
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 4/20/20 at 2:50 pm to Tornado Alley
Yesterday was first run over 3 miles in almost 2 weeks
5 miles yesterday 12:14 pace and 151 HR
probably my best run doing this zone training keeping my HR down and level the entire time. No spikes up into zone 5.
5 miles yesterday 12:14 pace and 151 HR
probably my best run doing this zone training keeping my HR down and level the entire time. No spikes up into zone 5.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 6:56 pm to StraightCashHomey21
I’ve been purposefully slowing down and I can’t get my heart rate below 160 bpm. The best I’ve done lately is 163 bpm on my best run of all time. WTF.
Heart rate training is a big part of the Pfitz marathon plan. That’s why I’m concerned.
Heart rate training is a big part of the Pfitz marathon plan. That’s why I’m concerned.
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 4/20/20 at 7:45 pm to Tornado Alley
There are a few explanations for that, Tornado. It’s probably a combination of things. Do you know what your max HR is, or do you use the estimate method? I figured that you were running your easy runs too fast just based on your running history and your average pace for your runs. That is probably true to an extent. Lastly, if you really were running essentially 5 4-8 miles tempo runs per week, your body was never fully recovering from the bulk of your workouts. All of those things could lead to elevated HRs. I think it’s a very good thing that you are figuring this out right now early in your training.
This can also result from atrial fibrillation. The other things are more likely the culprit, but it might be good to get an EKG when you can just to be sure, especially if you are over 30 and heart issues run on your family. I know runners who have discovered atrial fib accidentally by observing chronically high avg HR. They asked their doctor about it and got an EKG that indicated A Fib.
This can also result from atrial fibrillation. The other things are more likely the culprit, but it might be good to get an EKG when you can just to be sure, especially if you are over 30 and heart issues run on your family. I know runners who have discovered atrial fib accidentally by observing chronically high avg HR. They asked their doctor about it and got an EKG that indicated A Fib.
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:09 am to LSU Patrick
I’m gonna keep slowing on my weekly runs to about 8:40-8:45/mile pace.
As for Afib, no one in my family has genetic heart conditions (I asked my mom this morning). Mom also has a PhD in nursing. I had an EKG at 27, when I was not exercising at all, and it was normal.
My resting heart rate is very normal. It’s often 58-70.
As for Afib, no one in my family has genetic heart conditions (I asked my mom this morning). Mom also has a PhD in nursing. I had an EKG at 27, when I was not exercising at all, and it was normal.
My resting heart rate is very normal. It’s often 58-70.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:46 am to LSU Patrick
Patrick, do you use a wrist or chest HRM? I recall reading somewhere that chest is more accurate, but I find them uncomfortable and would prefer to use my watch if the accuracy is about the same.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:47 am to Tornado Alley
Good to hear about the medical stuff.
You could probably slow your easy runs down to 9:30 to 10:00 pace IMO. It will feel very slow to you after running everything fast, but that is the only way to build aerobic fitness and to recover between more intense workouts. Running everything fast is fine if the goal is to race distances of a mile or less and limit weekly volume to less than 20 mpw, but for distance running the bulk of the volume should be easy. Easy will be very slow at first but will increase over time. If your long term goal is to race a marathon, taking the time to build a solid aerobic base is well worth the time and patience.
Also, if you have never done a proper max heart rate measurement, you should do one. Replace one of your speed work days with this test:
1) Warmup for a mile or two at an easy pace
2) Run a mile at tempo pace (moderately hard pace)
3) Run a hard effort for 400 meters, increasing your pace every 100 meters or so until you are at max effort for the last 100 meters.
4) Your Max HR should be displayed in your uploaded workout on connect or strava. This will be your true max HR or very close to it.
If your max HR is like 220 or something, then 150-160 could very well be your target HR at recovery to easy pace. That would be pretty rare, but it is possible.
You could probably slow your easy runs down to 9:30 to 10:00 pace IMO. It will feel very slow to you after running everything fast, but that is the only way to build aerobic fitness and to recover between more intense workouts. Running everything fast is fine if the goal is to race distances of a mile or less and limit weekly volume to less than 20 mpw, but for distance running the bulk of the volume should be easy. Easy will be very slow at first but will increase over time. If your long term goal is to race a marathon, taking the time to build a solid aerobic base is well worth the time and patience.
Also, if you have never done a proper max heart rate measurement, you should do one. Replace one of your speed work days with this test:
1) Warmup for a mile or two at an easy pace
2) Run a mile at tempo pace (moderately hard pace)
3) Run a hard effort for 400 meters, increasing your pace every 100 meters or so until you are at max effort for the last 100 meters.
4) Your Max HR should be displayed in your uploaded workout on connect or strava. This will be your true max HR or very close to it.
If your max HR is like 220 or something, then 150-160 could very well be your target HR at recovery to easy pace. That would be pretty rare, but it is possible.
This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 9:10 am
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