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CBS News: Is Trump Already Winning The Trade War With China?

Posted on 7/6/18 at 3:17 pm
Posted by Giantkiller
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/6/18 at 3:17 pm
Is President Trump Already Wining The Trade War With China?

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After months of threats and gamesmanship, President Trump's tariffs on $34 billion worth of Chinese industrial imports took effect a minute after midnight Friday. It's the latest in a line of protectionism aimed at the U.S. trade deficit with China, which totaled nearly $600 billion in 2017, and includes tariffs on imports of steel and aluminum as well as items like washing machines and solar panels.

And much more has been threatened. Mr. Trump said on Thursday that another $16 billion worth of tariffs against China are coming in two weeks -- and U.S. total alone could reach $550 billion in the next few months.

The actions appear to be having the intended effect, if at the cost of pushing up inflation (prices for washing machine in the U.S. have spiked 16% in recent months, for example). The U.S. trade imbalance with China in May totaled $43.1 billion, down from the $47.2 billion posted in March; it's the smallest monthly deficit since October 2016 and caps the largest three-month reduction in 10 years.

China responded early Friday with its own tariffs on a $34 billion range of American goods including soybeans and pork. The risk now is that the tit-for-tat that marked the verbal standoff will translate into escalation in action, as each side tries to one-up the other...


Caps the largest three-month reduction in 10 years.


Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51817 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 3:18 pm to
Shhhhhhh.


Don't tell anybody.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 3:19 pm to
CBS took a knee in less than 24 hours. Winning, folks
Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/6/18 at 3:20 pm to
That just means we bought less... not exactly good, actually bad, really bad
Posted by Seldom Seen
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Posted on 7/6/18 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51817 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

That just means we bought less... not exactly good, actually bad, really bad



Which means they sold less, which means they made less money, which means they realize this and negotiate a fair trade deal, which means you suck at economics.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 7/6/18 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

$34 billion range of American goods including soybeans


A reminder that due to shifts in growing seasons, the US is projected to be the largest, by far, provider of soybeans to China this summer. Brazil can't produce enough at this time.
Posted by Fireman17
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
11708 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 3:26 pm to
China needs a lot of it for ToFu so no way they are not going just not buy from the USA..
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/6/18 at 3:31 pm to

Naive question I’m sure. I admit I’m no trade war expert.
If China has a + 600 billion trade deficit with us how can they even compete in a trade war? Seems like retaliation only hurts thier exports and thier economy exponentially more than ours.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 3:37 pm to
CBS = Fake News.

Are we believing CBS when they say stuff we want to hear now?
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53215 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

A reminder that due to shifts in growing seasons, the US is projected to be the largest, by far, provider of soybeans to China this summer. Brazil can't produce enough at this time.

Weaponized estrogen
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22793 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

Naive question I’m sure. I admit I’m no trade war expert. If China has a + 600 billion trade deficit with us how can they even compete in a trade war? Seems like retaliation only hurts thier exports and thier economy exponentially more than ours.


Sounds like "You have more than you know!"

People don't understand as you have pointed out that China has way way more to lose than the USA and that means we have the upper hand.
Posted by LSUTigerFan247
Member since Jun 2017
3643 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

China responded early Friday with its own tariffs


Well shite, where the hell am I gonna get my chinese knock-off crap now?
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16817 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

People don't understand as you have pointed out that China has way way more to lose than the USA and that means we have the upper hand.


It’s already getting bad for them. Their markets are way down. Trump knows we have have the upper hand, and we may get a black eye, but the more China tries to keep up with Trump, the more they bloody themselves.

This won’t last long as long as the left stays out of the way and lets Trump push China to a knee.
This post was edited on 7/6/18 at 3:54 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 7/6/18 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

Well shite, where the hell am I gonna get my chinese knock-off crap now?


The flood of cheap knockoff Chinese goods is something that should have been shut down long ago.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39625 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 3:59 pm to
BUT ITS A WAR GODDAMMIT!!!

THAT MAN HAS STARTED A WAR!!!

<Looks toward heavens, then screams while weeping>
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11828 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

People don't understand as you have pointed out that China has way way more to lose than the USA and that means we have the upper hand

They definitely have more to lose but they can make life very uncomfortable for Trump the next couple years and hope he’s out in 2020 and they can return to the status quo.
This post was edited on 7/6/18 at 4:04 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74540 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 4:05 pm to
He cant keep getting away with this

I anticipate Kudlows resignation Monday
Posted by i am dan
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Member since Aug 2011
24891 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

Mr. Trump said on Thursday


It's President Trump. Thank you.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24891 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

CBS = Fake News. Are we believing CBS when they say stuff we want to hear now?


Easier to believe it as truth when the outlet reports something they'd rather not report.

Take you for example... If you hate some dude but you say he's pretty good at basketball, I would believe the dude is pretty good at basketball.

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