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re: LSU’s Orgeron has more job security than many think

Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:48 pm to
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
107940 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:48 pm to
My constant dislike of having Les Miles as our HC will temporarily negate any negative feelings I have for the Red Bull head can crusher coach we now have.

O Negatives:

Miss St., Troy, Bowl game...This can no longer happen
Ed's 1st OC hire
Ed's possible reverting back to his Ole Miss ways
Lost a must have CB to Saban


O Positives:

Great staff and we may actually have a QB
Def & Off line depth
A real possibility of an offense





Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37412 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:58 pm to
quote:

Let’s see how it plays out.




No one disagrees with this in theory, but "playing out" for a coach with a record of continuous improvement, of beating more capable teams, of not having public missteps, and actually having a history of excellence, growth and success, is different from "playing out" with a career losing head coach, with multiple public issues and perception problems, with a career of not really succeeding or even being worthy of the possibility of success, with someone who doesn't exude confidence and routinely says only what people want to hear, someone without actual results, and any positive results are actually better viewed as an opportune time to be "successful." And someone who's best skill is something he didn't perform as well at given his very next chance to succeed.

It's quite simple why the leash should be short, and playing out shouldn't be 3+ years.
Posted by SouthdownsTiger4178
Member since Jun 2018
1951 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

It's quite simple why the leash should be short, and playing out shouldn't be 3+ years.


More like this year or else.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45197 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:48 pm to
That shite was written by Ed Daniels.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59073 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

My constant dislike of having Les Miles as our HC will temporarily negate any negative feelings I have for the Red Bull head can crusher coach we now have.


I don’t understand this mindset. “Waiter, thank you for bringing me this rancid hamburger. It’s horrible, but my feelings for the over cooked steak that I made you take away negate any negative feelings that I may have about it”.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:36 pm to
No way Tiger Ree is not some sort of Goebbels minister of propaganda type.

Not a jab at Orgeron but this guy is a shill.
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
21304 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:43 pm to
Ed Daniels?




Not even sure why we need to talk about his job security right now, anyway. He’s the coach until he’s in hot water. 5-6 loses might put him there and Ed Daniels doesn’t know shite about the fury that would rain down.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

try to keep up earl.


I try Lunatik, but it's sometimes hard to do with the goalposts being moved so often for this head coach and his staff.

quote:

being unbiased is now as bad, if not worse, than hating and rooting for Orgeron to fail.


yeah, I think I might have seen something like that earlier today.

quote:

Get it together and see what's happening.


I'm trying man, I'm trying.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66830 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

Great staff and we may actually have a QB


Best staff hires are Les Miles’

quote:

Def & Off line depth


That is what Miles hires Ed to do

quote:

A real possibility of an offense


Year 2 still hoping for that.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10563 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:25 pm to
I'll make a realistic prediction since no one else seems to want to. Going to be a rollercoaster season that ends with LSU being 7-5. LSU starts 1-2 and then later loses 3 in a row to UGA, MSST, and Bama.
Posted by DeepDiver
Key Largo
Member since Jun 2018
71 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

I don’t understand this mindset. “Waiter, thank you for bringing me this rancid hamburger. It’s horrible, but my feelings for the over cooked steak that I made you take away negate any negative feelings that I may have about it”.


Great analogy.

Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45069 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:50 pm to
O supporters continually dropping expectations while trying to pump him up. Sick of it.
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
3244 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:55 pm to
Didn’t read 10 pages. But will remind the OP that in 2015 les had a top 5 team the first week of November.

By the last week he was coaching for his job. The only job security is winning.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
12998 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

What's his record in the SEC?


Ed Orgeron vs. the SEC:

Alabama: 0-5
Arkansas: 2-3
Auburn: 1-3
Georgia: 0-2
Florida: 1-2
LSU: 0-3
Kentucky: 1-1
Miss. State: 1-3
Missouri: 1-2
Ole Miss: 2-0
South Carolina: 0-0
Tennessee: 1-1
Texas A&M: 2-0
Vanderbilt: 1-2

Total: 13-27
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31016 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 10:38 pm to
Watch how he’s going to spin that. If he even responds.


Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37412 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 11:42 pm to
quote:

Ed Orgeron vs. the SEC:


Posted by SofaKingTrill
Member since Mar 2008
6831 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 11:46 pm to
quote:

If Burrow is as talented as the LSU coaches believe, the Tigers, despite an onerous schedule, are likely to exceed seven wins.

Well frick! That would be exceptional. If he wins seven games, a new contract is in order...
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66830 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 12:14 am to
It’s always the same exact spin

“Who cares what he did at Ole Miss he’s 10-4 at LSU”
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123682 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 12:30 am to
But his wins over the juggernauts of Ole Miss and Arkansas!

Pretends like Troy never happened
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31016 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 1:04 am to
quote:

It’s always the same exact spin

“Who cares what he did at Ole Miss he’s 10-4 at LSU”




He does do that but what I was getting at was he asked for O's record in the SEC which Imber gave.


It'll be something like, "but what I meant was......"
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