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The Dow's 31% gain during Trump's first year is the best since FDR

Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:09 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69417 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:09 am
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Regardless of whether or not trump deserves credit, it's remarkable to see growth like this when the economy is not immediately recovering from a downturn (like fdr and depression)
Posted by ultratiger89
Houston, Tx
Member since Aug 2007
3051 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:10 am to
MAGA
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41827 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:13 am to
At the very least he can't be blamed for it being in bad shape.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44056 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:16 am to
The economy and The Court are the reasons I voted for Trump.
So far, so good.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34962 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:17 am to
Remember when the left swore Trump would crash the markets
Posted by LSUbase13
Mt. Pleasant, SC
Member since Mar 2008
15060 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:19 am to
This shite doesn't happen overnight. Credit the former regime for righting the ship. Trump, while capitalizing, is riding coattails.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34962 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:20 am to
quote:

This shite doesn't happen overnight. Credit the former regime for righting the ship. Trump, while capitalizing, is riding coattails.
no
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6839 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:22 am to
quote:

This shite doesn't happen overnight. Credit the former regime for righting the ship. Trump, while capitalizing, is riding coattails.


So if the markets had crashed it would be Trump’s fault, but since they’re soaring it’s due to Obama’s policies.

Csb
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:28 am to
quote:

This shite doesn't happen overnight. Credit the former regime for righting the ship. Trump, while capitalizing, is riding coattails.


The goddamn stock market went up a whopping 500 points from Jan 2015 to Nov 2016.

22 months. From 17,400 to 17,900.

At the same time, GDP growth averaged 1.8%.

How in the hell can you suggest 2 years of flat market and stagnant economy is the “coattails” to an 8,000 point market gain and 3.3% GDP growth?

Get your head out of your arse.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44056 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:31 am to
WSJ: Economists Credit Trump as Tailwind for U.S. Growth, Hiring and Stocks
quote:

Economists surveyed by The Wall Street Journal say President Donald Trump has had generally positive effects on U.S. economic growth, hiring and the performance of the stock market during his first year in office.

The professional forecasters also predicted 2018 would see solid growth and a continued decline in the jobless rate. One factor: the tax cuts signed into law by Mr. Trump in December, which most economists say will boost the economy for several years at least.
More broadly, most forecasters surveyed by the Journal suggested Mr. Trump’s election deserves at least some credit for the economy’s recent strength.

Asked to rate Mr. Trump’s policies and actions to date, a majority of economists said he had been somewhat or strongly positive for job creation, gross domestic product growth and the stock market. Most also said he had been either neutral or positive for the country’s long-term growth trajectory, while his influence on financial stability was seen as largely neutral.

“There is definitely a sense in the business community that the president’s actions on taxes and regulations have led to a more pro-growth environment for them to operate,” said Chad Moutray, chief economist at the National Association of Manufacturers.

[…]

A year ago, President Barack Obama got mixed grades as he prepared to leave office after eight years. Most economists surveyed by the Journal in January 2017 saw his policies as positive for financial stability, positive or neutral for job creation, negative or neutral for GDP growth and negative for long-term potential growth.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10976 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:06 am to
Another 'cherry picker' shaking last years tree. . .

. . . a very simple look at a stock market graph ( here's one) from something besides the very last year, say for instance from beginning of time or last 5 years, will show the latest trend began the year before his lordship and a general upswing since the market tumbled into the mire from the "Bush Leaguer'. We've been very fortunate the market he inherited was not like the one left by our last (so called) pro-business guy.

Like it or not Barry got the worst economy since 'The Great Depression' turned around.

Yep, Trumps not hurt things and he's definitely created a more business friendly environment; however he didn't right the ship or turn it around, he's simply reaping the benefits of an America that's always been great and not partial to lying idly around.

How you like them apples fruit picker.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37624 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:08 am to
This scares the ever living shite out of me. I just keep waiting for the bubble to pop and my savings to plummet. I guess good thing I already spent most of my money so I’m not very liquid at the moment
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22841 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:09 am to
quote:

Like it or not Barry got the worst economy since 'The Great Depression' turned around.


Hopefully you aren’t too stupid to realize the policies that led to the economic collapse were due to policies the dems and Obama fought for and continue to fight for.

Every Obama and dem supporter should be happy the shale boom carried the economy for a long time also even though they are too stupid to support hydraulic fracturing and embrace natural gas.
This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 8:12 am
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10976 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:30 am to
You read ?

Or just not realize you've invalidated yourself by talking about Barry causing an economic collapse before he was even PROTUS.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25419 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:37 am to
Paul Krugman thought the economy would never recover from Trump's victory.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101745 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:38 am to
quote:

This shite doesn't happen overnight. Credit the former regime for righting the ship. Trump, while capitalizing, is riding coattails.


While there may be a bit of credence to this, the markets are mostly forward looking.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34150 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:38 am to
Thanks Obama
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46545 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:38 am to
quote:

The Dow's 31% gain during Trump's first year is the best since FDR



Impossible, Morning Melt is saying Obammy's economy was much better than Trump's, has to be true.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22841 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:40 am to
I am just making the point that the economic crisis that Obama inherited was due to policies he and his own party already supported. The Bush regime and republicans are at fault for comrpomising with the democrats and letting those policies destroy the economy. I think it is disingenuous to say he inherited something which he already supported failed policies that created it.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:41 am to
i dont know to what degree you can credit a president for the economy, but it has noticeably improved since Trump took office.
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