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re: The Dow's 31% gain during Trump's first year is the best since FDR

Posted on 1/19/18 at 10:12 am to
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11806 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 10:12 am to
Presidents typically get too much praise or criticism over the stock market as it is not under their control as much as people think. But this is an impressive achievement and Trump definitely deserves credit.

The market went into overdrive the day after he was elected and hasn’t stopped.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10929 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 10:16 am to
TL-DR - But from the quick scan.

You must of lost it well before seeing I didn't sell Trump short, or question his policy, nor deride the rising market.... Ironically as far as i can tell this Dumbass - must of struck a nerve - with just another Dumbass.

BECAUSE - you might as well be just another cost his clients money stock broker... much like an ambulance chasing lawyer... or know it all sports fan. Because you can't deny the market was on the rise before Trunp's stock market rise. Has it accelerated, sure, but that doesn't mean it wasn't getting better before him or the other guys warong wrong. That's simply Barry's record, it's in the books you can't change it, and this one - well it's still being written. Hate won't change either one's record - no matter how many - haters want to play. And just because these market is very good - doesn't make the year before bad.

Really hate it that you hate so much, but that's something you can't fix on a sports-blog - HAGD (and hope you sell high - for your clients good).
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22780 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 10:36 am to
quote:

???more 43 (deflection)


I mean I am not trying to deflect. I will openly admit that the regime change foreign policy view was not a good decision. There were definite mistakes in how afganistan and Iraq were handled. I also agree that his policy of working with democrats was not a good idea. I also think spending should have still been reigned in.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22780 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 10:39 am to
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Because you can't deny the market was on the rise before Trunp's stock market rise. Has it accelerated, sure, but that doesn't mean it wasn't getting better before him or the other guys warong wrong.


I think the point was that is not really considered growth as a talking point. The economy was going to rebound to some extent at some point.

I think Obama got lucky by some technology carrying the economy while the Trump rally is being associated with additional fundamental changes in government economic policy.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10929 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 10:42 am to
I agree

Just not the point of not seeing a better economy when Barry left office than when he got there. My Trump dislike is not with his business reforms.
This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 10:43 am
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 11:43 am to
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Because you can't deny the market was on the rise before Trunp's stock market rise.

Yes, I absolutely can, you buffoon.

2 years of flat markets is not a "rising" market.

Look:

November 3rd of 2014 = 17,573 DJIA



November 1st of 2016 = 17,888 DJIA



And here is the market from Jan 2009 all the way to today:



The market STOPPED GOING UP in November 2014. Obama had a volatile as hell market for his last 2 years of office leading up to Election Day.

You cannot sit here and tell us that Obama did something to make 2 years of flat suddenly go straight up on the day Trump was elected.

He didn't do anything to make his flat two years suddenly shift upwards. Nothing. There's no policy implemented by Obama that did that.

So STFU and quit talking out your arse.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10929 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:44 pm to
Hey Fuxxoff or did I get the middle name wrong?



Here's another pretty picture for you. It's of the last 5 years. There's a definite upward tread till end of July 2015, where it goes down to the start of another rise (this one) beginning at Feb 2016. NO one has said the market hasn't take off since Trump; you can call it a trend, if you're to afraid to say LAST LAST GUY DIDN'T HAVE THINGS TURNING AROUND; however it'll just make you look even dumber than you are now.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

Here's another pretty picture for you. It's of the last 5 years. There's a definite upward tread till end of July 2015, where it goes down to the start of another rise (this one) beginning at Feb 2016. NO one has said the market hasn't take off since Trump; you can call it a trend, if you're to afraid to say LAST LAST GUY DIDN'T HAVE THINGS TURNING AROUND; however it'll just make you look even dumber than you are now.

You're a fricking retard, there's no other way to put it.

You can't start the year at 17,500, have it go down to 15,900 in the middle of the year, then back to 17,500 and tell us this is an "upward trend".

Get Obama's dick out of your mouth and stop being a stupid shill.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10929 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 1:14 pm to
When Barry started the DOW was 8,000 when he left it was 19,800.

You have a problem with maths? Or just too busy getting the taste of MAGA'dick out of yours to lookup and not blindly repeat something you might have heard somewhere. Your repeating one years worth of data over the course of 9 years of an administration is about as useless as touting this administration as 'the greatest' when he's just getting started.

You do know you don't save a brain for later use, it must be exercised, that one being so underused is really not that good?
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73472 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 1:15 pm to
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The economy and The Court are the reasons I voted for Trump.
So far, so good.


The nonstop entertainment is just a bonus.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11079 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 1:30 pm to
I'll credit Janet Yellen. The former admin did NOTHING to drive growth in capital markets.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45994 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 1:30 pm to
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When Barry started the DOW was 8,000 when he left it was 19,800. You have a problem with maths? Or just too busy getting the taste of MAGA'dick out of yours to lookup and not blindly repeat something you might have heard somewhere. Your repeating one years worth of data over the course of 9 years of an administration is about as useless as touting this administration as 'the greatest' when he's just getting started. You do know you don't save a brain for later use, it must be exercised, that one being so underused is really not that good?


Well considering the Dow had dropped from approximately 15k in 2007 down to 6500 in 2009 there's no where to go but up. Obammy did nothing to help the economy recover. The Fed using ZIRP/QE and TARP inflated the equities market. Remember this very important fact, the Obammy administration never had 1 year of 3% GDP growth and that's pathetic when you consider how far the economy had fallen during the financial meltdown.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11079 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 1:40 pm to


Some of you are really slow when it comes to this stuff
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

When Barry started the DOW was 8,000 when he left it was 19,800.

You have a problem with maths? Or just too busy getting the taste of MAGA'dick out of yours to lookup and not blindly repeat something you might have heard somewhere. Your repeating one years worth of data over the course of 9 years of an administration is about as useless as touting this administration as 'the greatest' when he's just getting started.

You do know you don't save a brain for later use, it must be exercised, that one being so underused is really not that good?

What's sad about this debate is you obviously know you're being horribly dishonest, but you don't seem to care one bit.

You're a typical Leftist piece of trash.

I'm guessing you think you're scoring some make believe points simply by dishing out effort to throw shade at your opponents.

Screw it if you have to lie and obfuscate, the effort is all that matters, right? You probably autofellatio yourself after a hard day's effort of awarding yourself shaming points, don't you?

What a loser.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44003 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

You must of lost it well before seeing I didn't sell Trump short, or question his policy, nor deride the rising market.... Ironically as far as i can tell this Dumbass - must of struck a nerve - with just another Dumbass.

Must have.
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 2:16 pm to
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Credit the former regime for righting the ship.


Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10929 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:02 pm to
Hey now..

Leftest????


Nope, just somewhere in the middle of being a pro-life, pro-environment (clean-water and air), 2nd amendment loving, marriage respecting, no-handout taking, immigration reform minded, trickle-down hating, flat tax wanting, Monsanto hating, freedom and privacy loving good ole boy. (I have no party)

All you far left and far right, can't think for yourself types really just make me sick. Maybe not sick just feel a bit sorry ya Mamma didn't raise you better and Daddy didn't teach you to not blind trust in any one political party.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34674 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:11 pm to
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Because you can't deny the market was on the rise before Trunp's stock market rise.
sure you can. The last 2 years before the election were horrible for growth. But you knew this
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