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re: So Tyronn Lue really has no idea what he is doing
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:20 am to lsupride87
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:20 am to lsupride87
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Wouldnt you say he is currently the 2nd best GM in the NBA? Thats bad?
heck no
put this team in the west and you have a whole different scenario.
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:20 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:Is he?
bc he was a bad GM his first stint in Cleveland and is doing a bad job again.
He's built the 2nd best team in the league that is only 2nd best because a few fluke things that allowed the greatest team ever to be assembled.
If your requirement to not be a bad GM is to be the best team ever, then I guess you have a point.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:21 am to StraightCashHomey21
I couldn't agree with you more.
Cleveland needs to slow it down and play physical with Lebron and Love catching the ball as close to the basket off screens and flashing in the low post. Their play designs should be suited towards getting the ball inside and out as GS can switch everything. They run horrible play designs for ball entry into the low box. No creativity and not physical whatsoever. Last year they were; I don't know why they are playing so soft right now.
They can even put Irving in the post as he did very well last year in the post. Go back to what worked last year. Play physical and beat them up.
Even Thompson was getting in on the action last year in pick-n-roll situations crashing towards the basket for easy putbacks or offensive boards.
The coaching has been more than subpar this series.
If he sticks to his guns they are toast. They may be toast anyways though and wouldn't matter what he did.
Cleveland needs to slow it down and play physical with Lebron and Love catching the ball as close to the basket off screens and flashing in the low post. Their play designs should be suited towards getting the ball inside and out as GS can switch everything. They run horrible play designs for ball entry into the low box. No creativity and not physical whatsoever. Last year they were; I don't know why they are playing so soft right now.
They can even put Irving in the post as he did very well last year in the post. Go back to what worked last year. Play physical and beat them up.
Even Thompson was getting in on the action last year in pick-n-roll situations crashing towards the basket for easy putbacks or offensive boards.
The coaching has been more than subpar this series.
If he sticks to his guns they are toast. They may be toast anyways though and wouldn't matter what he did.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:21 am to StraightCashHomey21
The JR Smith and Tristan Thompson contracts are terrible. I have no idea who they were bidding against (keep in mind Tristan's contract was before the salary cap increase).
As for Lue, he's clearly not an elite coach. I don't know how LeBron would respond to this, but they should get a guy like Ettore Messina.
As for Lue, he's clearly not an elite coach. I don't know how LeBron would respond to this, but they should get a guy like Ettore Messina.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:21 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:SAS is the only team you could argue over CLE.
put this team in the west and you have a whole different scenario.
If you swap CLE and GS, then CLE is the favorite to come out of the West.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:24 am to lsupride87
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Wouldnt you say he is currently the 2nd best GM in the NBA? Thats bad?
LeBron the GM is very similar to Bill Russell the coach. Bill Russell was a pretty damn good coach when he had a squad led by Bill Russell the player but he was a mediocre coach at best when he coached teams without him out on the court.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:27 am to Keys Open Doors
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The JR Smith and Tristan Thompson contracts are terrible. I have no idea who they were bidding against (keep in mind Tristan's contract was before the salary cap increase).
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For all the agent competitors complaining over Klutch Sports' control in Cleveland, it is the kind of leverage no agent would ever reject over an NBA franchise. Outside of his own maximum contract, James and Klutch Sports could turn the Cavaliers into one of the loose slot machines across the street in Gilbert's casinos. It worked with client Tristan Thompson, whom they leveraged into a five-year, $82 million contract. Rival agents find themselves spending more time with clients who end up with the Cavaliers, if only because Rich Paul and his associates work to pilfer players for Klutch Sports, promising the power of James' influence in contract talks with the team.
How David Blatt never stood a chance.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 10:28 am
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:28 am to Keys Open Doors
Tristan has value in this series. JR....eh, some. But they have the pieces to make this series close if they stop trying to run GS out the gym.
The fast pace isn't helping DWill. He can create his own shots. Let him.
Shumpert has ZERO offensive value. The dude should be reserved for those situations where you need defense in the final seconds to preserve a lead.
Use Kyrie and LeBron to assist the big men INSIDE the paint. It will open up those outside shots.
Bench Korver. The guy isn't even hitting open 3's.
May be time to give Frye more minutes and looks.
The fast pace isn't helping DWill. He can create his own shots. Let him.
Shumpert has ZERO offensive value. The dude should be reserved for those situations where you need defense in the final seconds to preserve a lead.
Use Kyrie and LeBron to assist the big men INSIDE the paint. It will open up those outside shots.
Bench Korver. The guy isn't even hitting open 3's.
May be time to give Frye more minutes and looks.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:29 am to SabiDojo
quote:He can't play, he gets badly abused on the other side.
May be time to give Frye more minutes and looks.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 10:30 am
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:30 am to shel311
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He can't play, he gets badly abused on the other side.
Korver is getting abused on the defensive side and can't even hit from his sweet spot. Maybe he will do better at home but the guy looks like shite.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:32 am to StraightCashHomey21
Isn't he just a suit to stand there while Lebron directs traffic?
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:32 am to Bunk Moreland
Yep, not only does Tristan share LeBron's agent, but he was also one of Kyrie's closest friends on the team. There was a fight pre-LeBron between Dion Waiters and some other guys against Kyrie and the first one to have his back was Tristan Thompson.
I get why they want him around. But LeBron should have the foresight to know that they could have gotten him for 4 years, 52 million or something along those lines, so they could build a better team. It does bring about $1 million less to Rich Paul and his assistants though.
Now they are saddled with two bad deals for 2 more years. LeBron will be 34 once the Cavs have cap space.
I get why they want him around. But LeBron should have the foresight to know that they could have gotten him for 4 years, 52 million or something along those lines, so they could build a better team. It does bring about $1 million less to Rich Paul and his assistants though.
Now they are saddled with two bad deals for 2 more years. LeBron will be 34 once the Cavs have cap space.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:34 am to StraightCashHomey21
JR Smith has been invisible.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:34 am to StraightCashHomey21
I buy keeping JR in the lineup at least one more game since you're going home and players like him thrive in that environment. Taking him out doesn't really fix anything either way so may as well say frick it.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:41 am to S
I think every NBA fan deep down still has that faint glimmer of hope that JR will, for no fricking reason, go into God Mode.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:42 am to HippieTiger
Spo is not a joke
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:45 am to BayouBengals03
It amazes me how people shite on Spoelstra. The guy's story is pretty remarkable. The dude started off at the Heat as the guy who edited videos of their games and practices. He wasn't even a full-time employee at the time.
He wasn't even a full-time employee at the time. 
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:48 am to SabiDojo
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Bench Shumpert
Hell no. He should be starting over JR. They're shooting at practically the same clip and Shumpert has been the only one defending this series.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:51 am to lsupride87
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Wouldnt you say he is currently the 2nd best GM in the NBA? Thats bad?
Well he doesn't get credit for landing Lebron James. He doesn't get credit for Kyrie Irving. He traded Wiggins for Love. According to yours and Shel's own argument, he has zero help. He also hired a joke of a coach.
So for consistency's sake, you would have to be wrong.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:53 am to SabiDojo
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Korver is getting abused on the defensive side and can't even hit from his sweet spot. Maybe he will do better at home but the guy looks like shite.
Somehow they've been able to keep him out of the corner 3 area where he likes it. Most shots I see him taking are 3-5 feet behind the perimeter.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 10:53 am
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