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re: The OFFICIAL Rogue One: A Star Wars Story ***SPOILERS*** Thread
Posted on 12/17/16 at 3:07 pm to Jordanreid2000
Posted on 12/17/16 at 3:07 pm to Jordanreid2000
There was a good bit of trailer footage that didn't make it. Thankfully "I rebel" got cut.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 5:14 pm to Civildawg
I love all the people saying, "Well except for this good part, and that good part, and that good part, the movie was very average".
If you take out the best parts of most movies they become more average. You hater dorks need to get over yourselves.
If you take out the best parts of most movies they become more average. You hater dorks need to get over yourselves.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 5:23 pm to Scruffy
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I want a Bothan dedicated movie now.
Rogue Two: Bothan Boogaloo
Posted on 12/17/16 at 5:25 pm to PsychTiger
Rogue Two has already been in a movie.
This post was edited on 12/17/16 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 12/17/16 at 5:44 pm to OMLandshark
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Really looked like Barad-Dur from Lord of the Rings.
Finally something I can agree with you on. I was thinking, "Why are they in Mordor and where is the Eye of Sauron?"
Posted on 12/17/16 at 6:07 pm to Scruffy
I don't remember the name Tarkin from the OT and had no idea that his character was CGI. Of course, I had been drinking before I saw the movie.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 6:20 pm to PsychTiger
quote:The best part of the movie was the Dunkirk trailer. Other than that it was average.
I love all the people saying, "Well except for this good part, and that good part, and that good part, the movie was very average".
Posted on 12/17/16 at 6:41 pm to PsychTiger
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you take out the best parts of most movies they become more average
You take out 20 seconds of most movies and they become average? That's news to me.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 6:43 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Great Star Wars flick. It would have been better with a little more Vader. The new leads where not the best characters, the side kick characters where cool. Did not expect them to all die, great twist. 4.5 out of 5 stars.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 6:46 pm to FreddieMac
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Did not expect them to all die, great twist.
Uhhhhh....for real?
Posted on 12/17/16 at 6:48 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
I honestly didn't think Disney would have the balls
Was expecting to some last second rescue crew to save them
Was expecting to some last second rescue crew to save them
Posted on 12/17/16 at 7:04 pm to FreddieMac
The simple fact that none of the Rogues were already established as heroes of the Rebellion telegraphed to me that none of them survived.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 7:08 pm to dawgfan24348
Very good movie,saw it in 2d this morning. Lead chick was a cutie, new droid was funny, no complaints.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 7:13 pm to Sentrius
First half of the movie 4/10...second half 7/10.
They did it right in killing everyone, its what they should have done in the last one.....chewie, 3po, r2, Leia , etc....should have died too.
Leia and them with the final blast of the star killer just as Han dies....then chewie saving the interracials from Andy Sandberg
They did it right in killing everyone, its what they should have done in the last one.....chewie, 3po, r2, Leia , etc....should have died too.
Leia and them with the final blast of the star killer just as Han dies....then chewie saving the interracials from Andy Sandberg
Posted on 12/17/16 at 7:14 pm to dawgfan24348
Same here. I thought maybe a few of the main characters would die but not all of them. I thought each death was meaningful and well-earned. I think someone near us cut some onions during the final battle.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 7:20 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Mine had the new POTC trailer before it.
Excited about that
Excited about that
Posted on 12/17/16 at 7:21 pm to SpqrTiger
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Dude... the original Star Wars movie had a run time of 121 minutes. You're defending a movie with 12 more minutes of fluff than one of the greatest character-driven action movies of all time. That introduced about SEVEN iconic characters that were household names within a year of release. Come on, man.
With that logic, If rouge one, as is, could be shipped back to 1975 and released..it would be talked as one of the best films of all time.
If star wars, as is..was never made then, and released now..no telling how well it would go over. Unfortunately I think it would be panned before release.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 7:34 pm to SpqrTiger
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greatest character-driven action movies of all time
Posted on 12/17/16 at 8:00 pm to dawgfan24348
Jyn – She is an orphan… ripped away from her parents by the empire… and then abandoned by the republic. She is left a drift to go “where’er so” with no one to claim her and no one to belong to. It is no small thing when Cassian says, "Welcome home."
Saw – The one who left Jyn last… a fighter of the good fight who has become more machine than man (a tool of violence)… one who has wrestled with monsters and become a forceless, rebel version of Vader… and he is tired of what he is.
Cassian – He is also tired of himself, a spy/soldier who has convinced himself that the lives he has killed and sacrificed (like his contact early on in the movie) are the price of achieving the good, but he knows it has cost him. Not just in relationships and loved ones who are gone (alluded to at one point), but in his own peace of mind. He fears he is becoming a non-questioning tool. He fears he is becoming a thoughtless killer, a storm trooper, and his honorably, desperate heart must seek something sacrificial to feel redeemed and at home with himself. Maybe when he says, "Welcome home" to Jyn, he is actually talking to himself.
Chirrut and Baze – Two guards from a fallen temple, men who have devoted themselves to preserving a place of worship to the force only to see it crumble to ruin. One man keeps faith, believing that there is more to the force than a building. He stays in the place where pilgrims have come. His blind faith keeps him watching for where the light will lead. The other man loses faith (it burns away from him in a blaze... maybe a "baze") and has been replaced with anger and questions. It is his fondness for his blindly faithful friend that will not let him depart though... So he stays with his friend and it will finally be because of his devotion (perhaps faithfulness) to Chirrut and because of Chirrut's trust in the force and sacrifice that Baze will come around to see belief at the end once more. In such a religious frame of mind... what greater love is there than this, but that a man lay down his life for his friends.
Galen – Of course, a man's love for his daughter is nothing to trifle with either. Galen, however, is a man caught betwixt and between, a genius who will do anything for his daughter, even build the monster and let her depart from his heart if it means keeping her safe… In such an impossible place, he will keep his sanity by not recalling her (although he ends up inadvertently and literally recalling her anyway). He will also keep his sanity by creating a flaw in his design… a small chink in the armor where an arrow may yet find the mark… but he will not be able to shoot it… or see the death star become star dust. He is a man of pain... and hope.
Bodhi –Perhaps it is because he is man conflicted… a man of pain too… caught between his conscience and what he is told is his duty… that causes Galen to recognize a potential ally. Where Galen learns how to lie and weave a hidden plan in secret that keeps a small light lit in a hidden cave, Bodhi is not so able to hide the truth and he is cracking under it. Saw’s interrogation of him, compelling the truth from his mind, leaves him addled, but he has been squeezed by a great pressure for some time. He has come to recognize, the empire he serves is not security and peace. It is control and tyranny.
TLDR: I think the heroes in this movie are worthy of care. They are people struggling against the impossible night that is everywhere (and within) and each one is deciding it is better to die seeking light (sacrificial love) than to live under the dark. That is a truth ancient and hard and yet so obvious even the emotionless droid seems to get it.
Saw – The one who left Jyn last… a fighter of the good fight who has become more machine than man (a tool of violence)… one who has wrestled with monsters and become a forceless, rebel version of Vader… and he is tired of what he is.
Cassian – He is also tired of himself, a spy/soldier who has convinced himself that the lives he has killed and sacrificed (like his contact early on in the movie) are the price of achieving the good, but he knows it has cost him. Not just in relationships and loved ones who are gone (alluded to at one point), but in his own peace of mind. He fears he is becoming a non-questioning tool. He fears he is becoming a thoughtless killer, a storm trooper, and his honorably, desperate heart must seek something sacrificial to feel redeemed and at home with himself. Maybe when he says, "Welcome home" to Jyn, he is actually talking to himself.
Chirrut and Baze – Two guards from a fallen temple, men who have devoted themselves to preserving a place of worship to the force only to see it crumble to ruin. One man keeps faith, believing that there is more to the force than a building. He stays in the place where pilgrims have come. His blind faith keeps him watching for where the light will lead. The other man loses faith (it burns away from him in a blaze... maybe a "baze") and has been replaced with anger and questions. It is his fondness for his blindly faithful friend that will not let him depart though... So he stays with his friend and it will finally be because of his devotion (perhaps faithfulness) to Chirrut and because of Chirrut's trust in the force and sacrifice that Baze will come around to see belief at the end once more. In such a religious frame of mind... what greater love is there than this, but that a man lay down his life for his friends.
Galen – Of course, a man's love for his daughter is nothing to trifle with either. Galen, however, is a man caught betwixt and between, a genius who will do anything for his daughter, even build the monster and let her depart from his heart if it means keeping her safe… In such an impossible place, he will keep his sanity by not recalling her (although he ends up inadvertently and literally recalling her anyway). He will also keep his sanity by creating a flaw in his design… a small chink in the armor where an arrow may yet find the mark… but he will not be able to shoot it… or see the death star become star dust. He is a man of pain... and hope.
Bodhi –Perhaps it is because he is man conflicted… a man of pain too… caught between his conscience and what he is told is his duty… that causes Galen to recognize a potential ally. Where Galen learns how to lie and weave a hidden plan in secret that keeps a small light lit in a hidden cave, Bodhi is not so able to hide the truth and he is cracking under it. Saw’s interrogation of him, compelling the truth from his mind, leaves him addled, but he has been squeezed by a great pressure for some time. He has come to recognize, the empire he serves is not security and peace. It is control and tyranny.
TLDR: I think the heroes in this movie are worthy of care. They are people struggling against the impossible night that is everywhere (and within) and each one is deciding it is better to die seeking light (sacrificial love) than to live under the dark. That is a truth ancient and hard and yet so obvious even the emotionless droid seems to get it.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 8:53 pm to 13233
Enjoyed the film. I hope they keep with this formula going forward, trying to add back story fill old plot holes in the spin offs. Hopefully a Boba Fett spin off will enhance the character in order to make amends for him falling into a hole and dying in his only fight in the film.
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