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re: The OFFICIAL Rogue One: A Star Wars Story ***SPOILERS*** Thread
Posted on 12/17/16 at 9:31 pm to Rou Leed
Posted on 12/17/16 at 9:31 pm to Rou Leed
Not going to read through 17 pages so this might've been discussed already, but can someone explain to me the whole Vader hideout scene. Was that like his palace?? If so, it looked like the same planet he got crippled on, the volcano planet....why the hell would he choose to live there??
Also, the water tank thing, i didn't know he could take off his suit, he looked totally without clothing and vulnerable...also who the hell was the guy in the robe that alerted him?
Also, the water tank thing, i didn't know he could take off his suit, he looked totally without clothing and vulnerable...also who the hell was the guy in the robe that alerted him?
This post was edited on 12/17/16 at 9:33 pm
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 9:42 pm to Jack Ruby
I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure Vader had his own castle in the EU so that was probably that. I guess it's a perk of an upper management empire position.
As far as taking off his suit, I always assumed he took it off whenever possible. It's armor not fashion and it can't be comfortable.
As far as taking off his suit, I always assumed he took it off whenever possible. It's armor not fashion and it can't be comfortable.
This post was edited on 12/17/16 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 12/17/16 at 9:46 pm to Jack Ruby
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Was that like his palace?? If so, it looked like the same planet he got crippled on, the volcano planet....why the hell would he choose to live there??
Yes I believe so. If he wants to train and fuel his hatred, what better place is there? It also kind of looked like the real Citadel (prison for Jedi) from Clone Wars
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Also, the water tank thing, i didn't know he could take off his suit, he looked totally without clothing and vulnerable
I mean, it was like a healing chamber. Makes sense he could get out of the suit if everything was protecting in whatever that liquid was and he had a breathing apparatus still.
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who the hell was the guy in the robe that alerted him?
Looked like one of Palpatines royal council guys at first glance
Posted on 12/17/16 at 9:57 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Also, the water tank thing, i didn't know he could take off his suit, he looked totally without clothing and vulnerable
Dude can kill with a thought.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 9:57 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
I just always assumed the suit was an absolute necessity for him to stay alive, like it was virtually part of him now...but I guess y'all are right he would probably spend alot of time trying to heal/stay alive so th tank makes sense. Kind of like that chamber he had in Empire Strikes Back I guess.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 10:14 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
I saw it tonight and thought it was great.
I don't quite understand the complaints that it wasn't dark enough. I think if you try too hard to make a dark Star Wars movie you lose the charm and adventure that made us fall in love with these movies. I thought Rogue One did a great job of balancing that charm with the action sequences that are darker than we are used to.
I do think there are some legitimate complaints though. Bohdi's character was way underdeveloped, I'd have liked to see more out of him. I also didn't like what they did with Saw Gerrera. I couldn't quite tell what his role was. Was he supposed to be a bad guy or a good guy? Or somewhere in between? I was just confused about what his motivations were, and I thought Forrest Whitaker was kind of annoying as Saw.
As many pointed out, the score was subpar for a Star Wars movie, but it would be hard for anyone to live up to the standard set by John Williams.
Last complaint from me, but there were a few cheesy lines that the movie could have done without, namely Darth Vader's "choke" pun and some of Jyn's speeches. I don't think Jyn's speeches were terrible but some parts of it just felt a little forced.
Now for the good. As I mentioned above I thought they did a great job of balancing the fun Star Wars feel with the dark and violent battle scenes. The cinematography was awesome and seeing the Death Star with 2016 technology was incredible. The references to the OT were great without overdoing it. It was amazing to see Darth Vader as the terrifying villain we all know and love. I got chills during the last scene knowing how it leads right up to the beginning of A New Hope.
Chirrut and Baze were badasses and were absolutely my favorite characters. K2 was awesome as well, and brought the movie its much needed comic relief. Ir was also cool seeing Mon Mothma, Bail Organa, and Grand Moff Tarkin again.
All in all, I thought this was a great movie despite its flaws. It was better than I thought it'd be and this leaves me with a lot of excitement about what Disney can do with the rest of the Star Wars universe. I'm looking forward to more great Star Wars movies in the future.
I don't quite understand the complaints that it wasn't dark enough. I think if you try too hard to make a dark Star Wars movie you lose the charm and adventure that made us fall in love with these movies. I thought Rogue One did a great job of balancing that charm with the action sequences that are darker than we are used to.
I do think there are some legitimate complaints though. Bohdi's character was way underdeveloped, I'd have liked to see more out of him. I also didn't like what they did with Saw Gerrera. I couldn't quite tell what his role was. Was he supposed to be a bad guy or a good guy? Or somewhere in between? I was just confused about what his motivations were, and I thought Forrest Whitaker was kind of annoying as Saw.
As many pointed out, the score was subpar for a Star Wars movie, but it would be hard for anyone to live up to the standard set by John Williams.
Last complaint from me, but there were a few cheesy lines that the movie could have done without, namely Darth Vader's "choke" pun and some of Jyn's speeches. I don't think Jyn's speeches were terrible but some parts of it just felt a little forced.
Now for the good. As I mentioned above I thought they did a great job of balancing the fun Star Wars feel with the dark and violent battle scenes. The cinematography was awesome and seeing the Death Star with 2016 technology was incredible. The references to the OT were great without overdoing it. It was amazing to see Darth Vader as the terrifying villain we all know and love. I got chills during the last scene knowing how it leads right up to the beginning of A New Hope.
Chirrut and Baze were badasses and were absolutely my favorite characters. K2 was awesome as well, and brought the movie its much needed comic relief. Ir was also cool seeing Mon Mothma, Bail Organa, and Grand Moff Tarkin again.
All in all, I thought this was a great movie despite its flaws. It was better than I thought it'd be and this leaves me with a lot of excitement about what Disney can do with the rest of the Star Wars universe. I'm looking forward to more great Star Wars movies in the future.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 10:16 pm to Sentrius
I liked it overall, but one plot point is really bugging me.
Why would Leia be at the battle? Her whole thing prior to ANH was a covert supporter inside of the Imperial government. Even if her personal vessel was visiting docked inside the rebel flagship, don't you think they would have told her to detach before assaulting a major Imperial base?
It was a mistake to have the Tenative IV exit the flagship.
It would have been so much more efficient to have the Admiral try to transmit the plans, only to be told Imperials are jamming everything.
But someone knew were Leia was or going to be well enough to launch a probe containing the plans that she can pick up.
While we are at it: How did Vader find her? In ANH, Solo felt he was homefree once making it to hyperspace. Its only because of the tracking beacon that he was proven wrong. So they can track hyperspace signatures now?
Especially considering that Vader would have had to return to the Imperial ship before he could even begin pursuit.
And if this is known, then why wouldn't the ship do a series of short jumps with sublight transits between trying to throw them off?
But I digress.
Leia.
No business being there and it was a cheap, lazy ploy to do it the way they did.
Why would Leia be at the battle? Her whole thing prior to ANH was a covert supporter inside of the Imperial government. Even if her personal vessel was visiting docked inside the rebel flagship, don't you think they would have told her to detach before assaulting a major Imperial base?
It was a mistake to have the Tenative IV exit the flagship.
It would have been so much more efficient to have the Admiral try to transmit the plans, only to be told Imperials are jamming everything.
But someone knew were Leia was or going to be well enough to launch a probe containing the plans that she can pick up.
While we are at it: How did Vader find her? In ANH, Solo felt he was homefree once making it to hyperspace. Its only because of the tracking beacon that he was proven wrong. So they can track hyperspace signatures now?
Especially considering that Vader would have had to return to the Imperial ship before he could even begin pursuit.
And if this is known, then why wouldn't the ship do a series of short jumps with sublight transits between trying to throw them off?
But I digress.
Leia.
No business being there and it was a cheap, lazy ploy to do it the way they did.
This post was edited on 12/17/16 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 12/17/16 at 10:35 pm to Jack Ruby
He supposedly had a castle that was mentioned in some books/comics. It is on Mustafar. The place that created Vader, good place to go to get really angry.
He gets to hang out limbless in a bacta tank.
He gets to hang out limbless in a bacta tank.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 10:39 pm to Volvagia
that kind of bugged me too. Mothma told Bail Organa to alert his Jedi friend. She told him to send a courier he could trust and he hinted at sending Leia.
She should have been on the way to Tatooine. Her being in the flag ship was odd, unless they were going through a re-fit and just happened to be on the ship.
IDK.
There were other ways to get the signal to them.
She should have been on the way to Tatooine. Her being in the flag ship was odd, unless they were going through a re-fit and just happened to be on the ship.
IDK.
There were other ways to get the signal to them.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 10:45 pm to Napoleon
It's an issue. But I'm sure there is a plan to explain it.
BTW, the Hammmerhead ship really really bothered me
BTW, the Hammmerhead ship really really bothered me
Posted on 12/17/16 at 10:54 pm to athenslife101
Just got out of the movie. Loved it! Better than the force awakens.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 10:56 pm to Napoleon
Leia had to go to Scarif to personally take possession of the DS plans, assuming the Rogue team could get them. That's why the Tantive IV Was gassed up and ready to go in the belly of the Mon Calamari flag ship.
It also explains why Vader had ZERO patience with Captain Antilles and Leia at he beginning of ANH. They're trying hard to sell the "consular ship on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan" angle and Vader literally just watched the Tantive IV drop from the belly of the Mon Cal cruiser and make the jump to Tatooine. (Which is nowhere near Alderaan, IIRC. It depends on where they ended up putting Scarif on the galactic map).
I agree that Vader's palace being on Mustafar was a good choice, as it indeed keeps his hatred fueled and perpetually stoked.
It also explains why Vader had ZERO patience with Captain Antilles and Leia at he beginning of ANH. They're trying hard to sell the "consular ship on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan" angle and Vader literally just watched the Tantive IV drop from the belly of the Mon Cal cruiser and make the jump to Tatooine. (Which is nowhere near Alderaan, IIRC. It depends on where they ended up putting Scarif on the galactic map).
I agree that Vader's palace being on Mustafar was a good choice, as it indeed keeps his hatred fueled and perpetually stoked.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 11:30 pm to Sentrius
One of the things I liked the best was that even with the technology of today being far superior to what they had in the 70's, the consoles and everything about the interior of the Death Star that they show is practically visually identical to what it is in 'A New Hope'
Posted on 12/17/16 at 11:42 pm to DannyB
Just got out. Thought it was great. I need to mull it over but part of me likes it better than Force Awakens.
The last 30 minutes were incredible. Unlike ROTS, this film did a great job of reconnecting to ANH. I think it will even make ANH a better film.
Also, I read Catalyst before seeing it and that makes a huge difference, IMO.
The last 30 minutes were incredible. Unlike ROTS, this film did a great job of reconnecting to ANH. I think it will even make ANH a better film.
Also, I read Catalyst before seeing it and that makes a huge difference, IMO.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 11:52 pm to Antonio Moss
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I need to mull it over but part of me likes it better than Force Awakens.
I don't know if I'm quite there, but its much closer than I thought. The Rogue One story is better but I still think The Force Awakens is a better overall movie. I'll have to see Rogue One again before I make that decision though
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Unlike ROTS, this film did a great job of reconnecting to ANH. I think it will even make ANH a better film.
Absolutely. It was always kind of dumb that there was this convenient exhaust port that could blow up the whole Death Star. I like that we now have an explanation for that.
On top of that, we now have a greater sense at how powerful Vader and the Empire truly are and how dire things are for the Rebels.
This post was edited on 12/17/16 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 12/18/16 at 12:20 am to Cap Crunch
quote:Is this a complaint here? Just asking.
I don't quite understand the complaints that it wasn't dark enough.
Literally every protagonist dies and Vader wipes out 12+ rebel soldiers in a - you have no fricking chance - crushing ending. It matches up perfectly to watch ANH.
This was the darkest SW movie IMO, above ESB. The only reason it wouldn't be is because we know what happens already in ANH. When ESB was released, we didn't know what would happen.
IMO, Rogue One is what Suicide Squad could have been.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 12:41 am to Volvagia
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While we are at it: How did Vader find her? In ANH, Solo felt he was homefree once making it to hyperspace. Its only because of the tracking beacon that he was proven wrong. So they can track hyperspace signatures now?
They could have put out the equivalent of an APB and had an Imperial Patrol spot them in the Outer Rim (where Tattooine is)
Posted on 12/18/16 at 12:44 am to Rou Leed
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Enjoyed the film. I hope they keep with this formula going forward, trying to add back story fill old plot holes in the spin offs.
Well, we already know their formula:
2015 - Episode VII
2016 - Rogue One
2017 - Episode VIII
2018 - Untitled Han Solo Film
2019 - Episode IX
Posted on 12/18/16 at 1:21 am to VoxDawg
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Leia had to go to Scarif to personally take possession of the DS plans, assuming the Rogue team could get them. That's why the Tantive IV Was gassed up and ready to go in the belly of the Mon Calamari flag ship.
There was no reason for her to be there. She was going to meet Obi Wan on tatooine. There was no plans for sending the plans to anyone. Nobody knew they were there. Even once they found out Rogue one was there, at no point was it her mission to get the plans. Her actually being there made absolutely no sense.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 1:24 am to drizztiger
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Is this a complaint here? Just asking.
I haven't seen anyone make it beyond the fact that this was only a glimpse into what a darker Star Wars movie could be. The biggest complaint is around the stuff that has been rumored to have been removed that added even more to Vader's scenes. That's what people are complaining about.
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