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What gun invention revolutionized warfare
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:20 am
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:20 am
I am referring to the difference in gun battles between the American Civil War and the first World War World. Was it breech loading rifles or simply the change in bullets (minie balls).
Im just trying to understand what ultimately made line infantry tactics obsolete
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:21 am to volod
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what ultimately made line infantry tactics obsolete
The machine gun.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:23 am to volod
Well rifled barrels made the Civil War casualties so high. The tactics hadn't caught up yet. Then cartridged ammunition really changed the game. And of course the machine gun.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:23 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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The machine gun.
Period. Dot. End of story.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:23 am to volod
grooved barrels, cartridges, more capacity magazines, and fully automatic weapons
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:28 am to volod
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Im just trying to understand what ultimately made line infantry tactics obsolete
Machine guns and smokeless powder.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:29 am to Kashmir
They were using hollow points in the Civil War.
Now, we can only shoot nice bullets.
Times sure have changed.
Now, we can only shoot nice bullets.
Times sure have changed.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:34 am to volod
rifling barrels was a huge advancement
I would say repeating ammunition.
Once a gun could shoot as many times as the trigger was pressed that was a huge leap forward.
I would say repeating ammunition.
Once a gun could shoot as many times as the trigger was pressed that was a huge leap forward.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:36 am to ctiger69
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They were using hollow points in the Civil War.
What?
Minie balls are not "hollow points"
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:46 am to volod
the self contained cartridge and auto-loading firearms
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:48 am to volod
Without self contained cartridges, machine guns would have never advanced. So that my answer.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 11:04 am to volod
Machine gun hands down. At the time it was introduced to the battle field armies were still doing human wave attacks similar to civil war type battle although not marching in formation. It led to battle field gridlock and trenches since new tactics had to be devised.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 11:04 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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The machine gun.
If anyone here enjoys alternate history books, read "Guns of the South." Without spoiling too much, the South gets supplied with AK 47s. It's a fun read.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 11:36 am to civiltiger07
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the self contained cartridge
This. The self-contained small arms cartridge reshaped the landscape of warfare.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 11:57 am to Clames
Posted on 8/9/16 at 12:04 pm to volod
Cartridges and rifling are 1A and 1B
Posted on 8/9/16 at 12:05 pm to upgrayedd
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They were using hollow points in the Civil War.
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What?
Minie balls are not "hollow points"
I like history.
"Unlike a solid ball, which could pass through the human body nearly intact, leaving an exit wound not much larger than the entrance wound, the soft, hollow-based Minié ball flattened and deformed upon impact, while creating a shock wave that emanated outward."
"The Minié ball didn’t just break bones, it shattered them. It didn’t just pierce tissue and internal organs, it shredded them. And if the ragged, tumbling bullet had enough force to cleave completely through the body, which it often did, it tore out an exit wound several times the size of the entrance wound. Civil War surgeons were quickly overwhelmed by the gaping wounds, mangled bodies and mutilated limbs they were asked to repair as the scope of the war broadened and casualties mounted. Though often accused of being too partial to their bone saws, amputating arms and legs as quickly as the men could be placed on their operating tables and subdued with chloroform or ether, the surgeons really had no choice. Even if they’d had the skills and resources to attempt reconstructive surgery, in the heat of battle they didn’t have the time."
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