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re: There are bad days and terrible days; 2 year old dead after being left in a car

Posted on 5/13/16 at 8:57 am to
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8634 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 8:57 am to
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100% correct. What does it say about her when she didn't see her own child while she's getting out of her car, nor back in, and amazingly it never registered in her mind during the work day that "hey I left my kid in my car."



For the three years that my daughter went to daycare I dropped her 95% of the time, because it was across the street from my job.

As many posters have said routine is a very powerful thing. One time after a rough start to the morning, I drove straight to work and was hoping out. I usually throw all of my items in the back seat, so when I went to grab them I realized that I had forgotten to drop her off. My heart sank at the possibility of what could have been.

I don't know if I could have continued had anything happened to her in that situation. If it was truly an accident, and she is a normal and loving parent, that is nothing a court system can do to her that will come close to what she is doing to herself.

Also, if you are under the assumption that you dropped your kid off and you are busy working I can see why it would register.

My daughter's daycare would call sometimes if we didn't bring her to check, but not every time. Fail safes fail sometimes...
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28909 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 9:12 am to
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As many posters have said routine is a very powerful thing. One time after a rough start to the morning, I drove straight to work and was hoping out. I usually throw all of my items in the back seat, so when I went to grab them I realized that I had forgotten to drop her off. My heart sank at the possibility of what could have been.

You're somewhat making my point for me. Some part of you as a good father felt uncomfortable and you immediately corrected. I remember my little one snuck out of the garage while she and I were in there, I panicked ran out in the yard and she was by the front door. It made me sick. But in this case we are talking 8-10 HOURS and nothing registered with the mother?? She also went in and out of the car at least 3 times. No way, can't comprehend it.
This post was edited on 5/13/16 at 9:13 am
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81325 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 9:16 am to
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frick that , I don't buy it and frick his cell phone , no way possible you should forget your kid in the car .... Instead of writing that story he should have put a bullet in his head ....



/r/NoSleep is a fiction forum
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96699 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 9:18 am to
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I just can't wrap my head around how you forget your kid in the car.
I have a two week old son. I would like to play the high and mighty card and shame these parents. But the truth is, I am freaking exhausted. To the point of almost hallucinating I can see how this happens even with a good caring parent
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
67134 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 9:25 am to
It happens with sufficient frequency that they now have alarms for baby car seats.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 9:48 am to
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You're somewhat making my point for me. Some part of you as a good father felt uncomfortable and you immediately corrected.


The only thing that stopped him was having his work items in the backseat as a reminder. What happens on that day when he doesn't have anything in the backseat for work since he left early the previous day and laptop, etc. are still in his office?

Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28909 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 9:57 am to
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The only thing that stopped him was having his work items in the backseat as a reminder. What happens on that day when he doesn't have anything in the backseat for work since he left early the previous day and laptop, etc. are still in his office?

Like I said, hopefully during the 8-10 hours he's at work he thinks about his kid. And if he can't remember if he dropped them off then he should get off his arse and go double check the car, or call the day care, or text the mother etc. There's plenty of ways to avoid this, just takes some action by the parent. It's the complete lack of parental thought that doesn't sit well.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83694 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 9:59 am to
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And if he can't remember if he dropped them off


she obviously believed she dropped the kid off since she went to the daycare to pick up her kid

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:04 am to
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It's the complete lack of parental thought that doesn't sit well.


It's actually quite the opposite.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:09 am to
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she obviously believed she dropped the kid off since she went to the daycare to pick up her kid


unless this was part of her elaborate plan to get away with murder
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28909 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:10 am to
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she obviously believed she dropped the kid off since she went to the daycare to pick up her kid


Again, no idea how she can be that oblivious. She never even went to the daycare that morning. And we are talking about another human being, a child, her child.... Not a dog, phone or briefcase. Just fricking wow.
This post was edited on 5/13/16 at 10:12 am
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79518 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:19 am to
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The sheriff is saying it looks like an accident, but last time we did this thread, everyone felt bad for that Atlanta or whatever guy and it turned out he murdered his kid.



Yep. Honestly, that event wore me out on this subject. Seems like people discussed it to death for weeks. It was a horrible situation that only got worse with time as we learned more.

I opened this thread and was like "oh shite I'm not doing this again"
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32957 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:31 am to
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routines are powerful


This fricking terrifies me. I don't have kids yet, but most of the time that I am driving, I'm on auto-pilot and just going through the motions. A lot of times I forget where I'm going or miss a turn because my brain thinks I'm supposed to be going somewhere else.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
26035 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:49 am to
I will never understand this.

How you forget you have your kid in the car is just incomprehensible to me. You can say routines all you want. It's your fricken kid!
What were you doing in the car ride the whole time?
did you literally not say a word to your child the entire trip?
Did your child not make a sound the whole trip?
Did you not realize you got to work earlier than normal?
If routines are so powerful, how the frick did you go the whole day not knowing you skipped a part of your routine?

There's just too many things that have to be grossly ignored for something like this to happen.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263293 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:51 am to

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she obviously believed she dropped the kid off since she went to the daycare to pick up her kid


There's just something weird about that. I don't know how you get through a whole day without remembering a key point of your daily routine wasn't accomplished.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85489 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:57 am to
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How you forget you have your kid in the car is just incomprehensible to me.


Idk, but to me it is a numbers game. We all have a moment when we forget or are oblivious to something so obvious in hindsight. When you consider how many parents bring their kids to daycare every day, it isn't absurd to suggest that one of those moments can happen in that particular setting.

I've forgotten my belt twice in the last 3 years. Both times I was conscious that I wasn't wearing it and needed to put it on, but instead of doing so immediately, I fixed my cup of coffee like I do right before I leave every day and I forgot the damn belt.

I know it seems ridiculous to liken a belt to a child, but the mental activity isn't too far off. I can't imagine it happening to me because I've never forgotten about my kids, but I think I can understand the dynamics at play that could cause that to happen.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263293 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:59 am to

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Idk, but to me it is a numbers game. We all have a moment when we forget or are oblivious to something so obvious in hindsight. When you consider how many parents bring their kids to daycare every day, it isn't absurd to suggest that one of those moments can happen in that particular setting.


The only time this has happened to me was the night after an epic bender or when I was taking a pain pill after surgery.

Breaking a routine is difficult. Routines are naturally followed.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96699 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:01 am to
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I know it seems ridiculous to liken a belt to a child, but the mental activity isn't too far off. I can't imagine it happening to me because I've never forgotten about my kids, but I think I can understand the dynamics at play that could cause that to happen.
It happens all the time in life. People go to a sporting event and leave their tickets at home etc etc

Kids arent comparable to sports tickets obviously. But absent mindedness happens. No matter how much you love your kid, it doesnt prevent you from human mistakes
Posted by Lokistale
Member since Aug 2013
1200 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:07 am to
I could not imagine the guilt that this mom is going to carry...

Personally, I don't think I will be able to carry the guilt and still be anywhere near functional... I think suicide is horrible, but this will definitely make me do it...

The mother will be haunted by...

1. This child is not an infant, at 2 years old, she is aware. During those long hours is the car, she was crying, calling, begging for her mom to get her, to rescue her...

2. This child die a slow, agonizing death, the temperature was just in the mid-80's... probably took hours of over-heating for her to eventually past out...

... I can't finish this...

...I will have to kill myself if this happened to my child...
This post was edited on 5/13/16 at 11:11 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85489 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:11 am to
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Breaking a routine is difficult. Routines are naturally followed.


I think that is sort of the point though. The slightest change in a routine can have you mentally screwed up, so as your mind rushes to get back to the routine, it may put you further along that you anticipated.

I've answered phone calls on Bluetooth and driven past my exit before. There is a sharp turn near my house and sometimes I subconsciously turn my blinker on despite the road only going one way. Things like that are pretty crazy in hindsight, because very little of it is conscious decision-making, but they do happen.
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