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re: My week without my conceal carry firearm
Posted on 7/7/15 at 3:40 pm to Broke
Posted on 7/7/15 at 3:40 pm to Broke
Broke, I understand your thoughts. I recently had to travel out of state for a week long meeting. Since I was flying, I chose not to go through the potential annoyance of flying w/ a gun. Although I don't "live in fear" and try to have a high level of situational awareness, there were times I also felt uneasy. Funny, I didn't have that uneasy before I started cc (and I didn't really pay much attention to situational awareness then), but I do now. Yeah, statistically finding yourself in a situation where a gun is needed for personal defense is extremely rare, I still feel more comfortable being prepared.
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 3:52 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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As a civilian you should never be in a place where you feel like you need a gun to protect yourself from peiple
Not to be confrontational but this statement is just ignorant. Check the local news for all the reasons why you should carry.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 4:06 pm to Broke
By no means am I saying people shouldn't carry, and I think it's a fundamental right, but I really don't know how some people step out of the house with this kind of paranoia. I think the same gun advocates who often use the "cars kill more people than guns" argument should remember that cars do kill more people than guns. Does this mean that you are just as scared to be in a car at any given day as walking around with no firearm?
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 7/7/15 at 4:07 pm to Buck_Rogers
broke was just profiling way to hard all them urban boys in that city
Posted on 7/7/15 at 4:10 pm to Salmon
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some of you people are just weird
I have no idea how y'all live in such fear all the time
Being prepared =/= fear
Why call someone weird that chooses to carry? No one is forcing you to do the same.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 4:11 pm to Chad504boy
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broke was just profiling way to hard all them urban boys in that city
I get that. During the times I've spent up there, I can think of a lot of things that made me uncomfortable.
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 7/7/15 at 4:13 pm to Chad504boy
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One of the key learning points in conceal carrying is to not even position yourself in dangerous situations.
If a person can predict every possible dangerous situation, that person:
- doesn't need any self defense weapon
- should play the lottery
Avoiding obvious places is a no brainer. Not every situation is obvious.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 4:18 pm to Broke
New York has like 4 times fewer gun deaths than La per capita, why would you be so scared?
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 7/7/15 at 4:21 pm to tigerfoot
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New York has like 4 times fewer gun deaths than La per capita, why would you be so scared?
I was thinking this when he said where he was. Hell I carry some since I've had kids, but we have some shady places around here with the best gas and food.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 4:38 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:Exactly. It's not like any of those carrying are ever going to use them anyway.
As a civilian you should never be in a place where you feel like you need a gun to protect yourself from peiple
Posted on 7/7/15 at 5:13 pm to AlxTgr
I'm one of the ones who believes in personal responsibility for self-defense. That's not a gun for everyone, just some type of force multiplier, some practice with the force multiplier you choose, and situational awareness. Hell, it might not even be a force multiplier. Maybe you just practice running fast from cover to cover. Fair enough, the important thing is to get home to your family. Or your apartment full of cats.
I carry and train and I've been accused of paranoia and "living in fear" and all that...whatever. It's not paranoia to understand that horrible things happen, and that they can happen to you, regardless of the odds.
I carry and train and I've been accused of paranoia and "living in fear" and all that...whatever. It's not paranoia to understand that horrible things happen, and that they can happen to you, regardless of the odds.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 5:16 pm to Buck_Rogers
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but I really don't know how some people step out of the house with this kind of paranoia.
I know you and others feel otherwise, but let me go on record as saying that I am not paranoid. Unlike you, I don't think that choosing to cc makes one paranoid.
quote:I actually like your analogy. But again, I think that the non-cc person needs to understand that I'm not cc'ing because I'm scared. Despite my best precautions (e.g. avoiding high risk areas), there are times I'm uneasy if I'm not cc'ing. Likewise, I'm not scared to be in a car. Nevertheless, there are times I may get uneasy in my car (area of town I find myself in, crazy drivers, really crowded traffic, etc.). I don't think it makes me paranoid or scared just because I try to be careful w/ some situations while in my car.
I think the same gun advocates who often use the "cars kill more people than guns" argument should remember that cars do kill more people than guns. Does this mean that you are just as scared to be in a car at any given day as walking around with no firearm?
situational awareness and concern for ones' safety=/= paranoid and scared.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 5:19 pm to Langston
quote:All my places are gone
best gas
Posted on 7/7/15 at 5:45 pm to Pettifogger
Growing up, my friend's dad returned home from work one evening, as he got out of his car a robber hiding in a closet under the carport robbed him at gunpoint then shot and killed him.
Now, I guess my friend's dad could have just not have gone home but robbers had never hid in the carport closet waiting to rob him before.....so he felt safe returning home.
Point is you may never need a gun, but that one time that you do but don't have one......
After working violent crime cases, my professional and personal opinion is you take a big risk not carrying a concealed weapon when it is allowed.
Better to have it and never need it, then need it but never had it.
Now, I guess my friend's dad could have just not have gone home but robbers had never hid in the carport closet waiting to rob him before.....so he felt safe returning home.
Point is you may never need a gun, but that one time that you do but don't have one......
After working violent crime cases, my professional and personal opinion is you take a big risk not carrying a concealed weapon when it is allowed.
Better to have it and never need it, then need it but never had it.
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:23 pm to weagle99
Sometimes people can't avoid bad areas or situations. I have worked in really bad areas of New Orleans for a long time. I am comfortable in a lot of situations where most people would be paranoid, but there still are areas where I don't go without carrying. I don't usually carry for those reasons
Posted on 7/7/15 at 7:26 pm to Salmon
quote:This is getting good. In on page 2.
some of you people are just weird
I have no idea how y'all live in such fear all the time
Posted on 7/7/15 at 7:55 pm to theenemy
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After working violent crime cases, my professional and personal opinion is you take a big risk not carrying a concealed weapon when it is allowed.
That's an emotional response to seeing things up close. Statistically, it's almost negligible.
Listen, I carry, but there is simply no basis whatsoever for the idea that you're taking a big risk by not carrying. Unless the point is that the risk is low, but the magnitude of the unlikely thing, if it happens, is huge. I get the latter, and I get that you can't predict when harm will befall you with certainty.
But the risk of being a victim of violent crime, by any measure, is small. The risk of becoming a victim due to your lack of a concealed carry weapon is even smaller. We can acknowledge these things truthfully without doing any damage to our reason for carrying or 2A rights.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 7:58 pm to Pettifogger
My opinion on this is that if you are very serious about self preservation you should be more concerned with reducing your time spent traveling on public highways and less concerned about needing to shoot somebody.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 7:59 pm to Pettifogger
If people are that worried about personal safety, shouldn't they also enrich their training in personal defense type martial arts Kung fu free flow pro doe type shite, not every situation of safety calls for the use of a gun
Posted on 7/7/15 at 7:59 pm to AlxTgr
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But flats actually happen.
Shootings happen in "good" places every single day. Every. Single. Day.
I bet the likelihood of a well maintained tire going flat and a person being in an area where a shooting happens aren't that far apart. They definitely aren't far enough apart for me to chance either.
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