re: Mett......more to the story

I agree with your analysis. Brian Griese mentioned during the A&M game, while reviewing the LSU-SC game film, LSU ran the same 2-man route 18 times against the Gamecocks. It is very difficult for a receiver to get seperation when he runs an 8 yard sit-down route. It also makes it very easy for the db to cover. Not to mention we don't run much play action on 1st or 2nd down which enables the LB's to drop into coverage.

Our passing scheme is the biggest problem with our offense not the personnel.

NO....I have never coached a college team....But, I did play WR in the Run & Shoot offense in college.

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passing scheme is the biggest problem with our offense not the personnel.

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So without question, the personnel should take NONE of the blame? No drops? No bad routes? Nothing?

It's a product of both why is that hard to grasp. If the scheme is simplistic and easy for a defense to read and react execution will be comprimised. Drop passes are on the individual. Routes that are easy to cover are not. Watch replays of game man. We hardly run crossing routes, when we do two recievers run the same route only about 10 yards apart over the middle pulling the defense to the middle of the field. Now maybe it was execution meaning one of them ran the wrong route, but it happened more than once against USC. And against A&M and Mett took a sack.

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Look, Mett misses wr's and misses some blitz pick ups, but that is expected from a QB starting for the first time in his college career.

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I do not like this comment. Though it is technically true, he started at UGA so he had to learn something there. JUCO was another opportunity to sling it around. He's been in the LSU system for an entire year watching from the sidelines and practicing with a very good SEC defense. Now he's on the back stretch of the season as a starter where he should have more chemistry with his receivers. To me this screams coaching. He's a good QB. Unless something changes, we'll never know how good he can be.

Biggest misconception is if you spread things out you are going to throw. Not necessarily. Because you are "threatening to throw by formation the defense HAS to respect the offenses alignment. They do this by using 1 or 2 safeties depending on film study, etc. When the offense spreads out, so does the defense therefore removing defenders from the box which in turn makes your inexperienced young injured offensive line not responsible for as many defenders. It "cleans up" the box making things more "clear" than "cloudy". The Def Coord can now only "play games" with 6 defenders in the box rather than 8. There are other ways to run the football. Not only does this help offensive line it also helps the QB.

Early post mentions that he feels that bc of the offensive scheme that LSU will not get a pro style QB. Great comment!! But let me go one step further, would you come to LSU if you were a big time WR? Maybe for some of you who don't want to blame the coaching staff, you might want to consider this. you are no longer getting the top notch WRs because they do not want to come to a run run run type offense. When this starts to happen, esp in the SEC talent in the secondary is incredible, you are going to have issues. Best case scenarios for DC's is when they can man you up bc it always them to blitz more effectively. Back to pro style QBs, Miles is so in denial he actually criticized a Senior in high school for not coming to LSU.... Miles reason "he doesn't have the chest to lead the Tigers".......Les, is this the reason or is it that he saw how you handled a previous QB situation. Or is it because he sees how "elementary and non existent" your passing game is. Ultimately these type think they have a shot at the pros and they want to be developed accordingly and that is not going to happen for them at LSU. I am a LSU Tiger 100%, I'm being honest. If you are a parent, step back and think about it. If you want the best for your child and they are a QB or WR.... Why would you send them to LSU? If so, why other than it's LSU"! However, kids will still come to LSU to play defense and, in my opinion, that is why the defense is way ahead of the offense. Miles better recognize this before it's too late. For the record, I hope they win every game they play.... But there is a developing trend that needs to tended to. The writing is on the wall with this years WR core and last years QB recruit

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Before I post, I preface with I have not read all of the post but from what I can gather, there is a lot of conversation on Mett. First of all, the passing scheme is very elementary. You could say "well, it is elementary because of what the quarterback can understand?"....possibile. But hear me out. South Carolina interception...until the A & M game, when LSU lines up in I-Pro, it was a straight drop and the routes were either slants to both sides or the 9 yard out route to both sides. When a CB does not have the fear of being beat deep and the route combo's are that simple, good CB's are going to jump that route. On top of that, the TE is not released which makes things even easier for the defense. Mett did choose to throw the pass, but as a coach you can use other routes that will not allow the jump to occur...well, vs AM they did, Verticals..They were open and they were over thrown. However, the threat of the vertical passing game worked because AM backed people out of the box. As I have talked about before, its all about the numbers. Now the numbers are favorable in the box to run the ball BUT the play calling is still passes. The coaching staff is doing very very little to help this QB out. Most (dont have exact percentage) passing plays ONLY have 2 receivers on the route. There has been several times that these receivers wind up in the exact same spot (mostly on bootlegs); Mett throws the ball into the stands and the crowd boos.

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not sure if you went to the aTm game. They were in zero coverage 90% of the game. all 11 players were within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage.

this was the reason for the deep balls and very few slants, bubble screens, ect. not being thrown.

aTm did not back people out of the box because of the verticles. The verticles didn't open the slant.

Scona on 104.5 gave the stats on the number of passes thrown by J.Russel & M.Flynn over the course of their seasons & compared them to the numbers thrown by JL, JJ, & now Z.Mett. The latters are down, considerably, in comparision to the numbers put up by JR & MF. His point was that as CLM trusts a QB, he does allow them to throw the ball & is not all caught up in a Big 10 run run run, conservative style offense. Obviously, he does not trust ZM & his numbers are down considerably in comparision to the others. Former LSU QB Alan Risher said that he watched the game & then the game film several times & our WR's were wide open. ZM just missed them. He sounded like he was "blaming" ZM more than any coaching issues.

Tiger in Katy....I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "watch replays of game man"? I'm not being confrontatinal just looking for clarification.

The OP stated our passing game is very elementary and I agree with him. We also execute poorly at times with a very simplistic passing game.

"So without question, the personnel should take NONE of the blame? No drops? No bad routes? Nothing?"

Don't overreact. Of course, the personnel should bear some of the blame, and you identified issues with the OL, WR's and QB that are spot on in that regard. But what the OP and others have accurately identified is that there is something bigger going on. LSU routinely has less success on offense, especially in the passing game, than teams with presumably weaker personnel against the same competition. Florida has a good defense, but six points (3 of which were really scored by the D)? A&M has been a sieve all year ... until they play our Tigers. You could go on. Sure, there have been some execution issues, but the Tigers' offense, especially the passing game, has underperformed for YEARS with DIFFERENT personnel groupings. You don't have to be a Miles hater by any means to recognize this.