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Does everyone know our Defense is ranked 8th in the country
Posted on 11/24/09 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 11/24/09 at 1:02 pm
in scoring defense? Cause i sure see a lot of, "The jury is still out on Chavis" and "3rd and Chavis" comments
All with a terrible offense that keeps putting you on the field.
All with a terrible offense that keeps putting you on the field.
This post was edited on 11/24/09 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 11/24/09 at 1:03 pm to barry
That is pretty good, given the amount of time our defense has to spend out on the field.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 1:04 pm to barry
I don't think too many people will view chavis in a negative light.
If we had an adequate offense, we'd be ranked even higher.
If we had an adequate offense, we'd be ranked even higher.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 1:04 pm to barry
Teams know they don't have to score much on us. Put a few on the board and run the clock out.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 1:04 pm to barry
That's b/c Florida played keep-away.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 1:05 pm to barry
Miles has proven that he'll make changes where changes are needed (this hire being an example)...I have no doubt that he will do what needs to be done after this season.
This post was edited on 11/24/09 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 11/24/09 at 1:06 pm to barry
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in scoring defense? Cause i sure see a lot of, "The jury is still out on Chavis" and "3rd and Chavis" comments
All with a terrible offense that keeps putting you on the field.
Still short-sighted. You can't explain away everything with a single statistic or a single reason.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 1:07 pm to barry
You'll have a low scoring defense when you can hold teams to field goals like LSU does. Notice that Ole Miss attempted 5 Saturday. LSU plays the bend but don't break defense, which is annoying as it gets. I wish they could step up and stop someone before they cross midfield. That's why LSU is ranked high in scoring defense but they give up a lot of yards.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 1:08 pm to barry
There too much of a gap between #8 defense and #106 offense.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 1:08 pm to barry
It improved since last year for sure, but I am still not sold on Chavis. I dont like his style. Gives up too much. Not enough attack style defense.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 1:09 pm to barry
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in scoring defense?
That's the bottom line, but doesn't tell the whole story. This bend but don't break defense limits our offensive possessions.
3rd down defense - 45th
That's where we need improvement. Then we can give the offense more 3 and out possessions.
This post was edited on 11/24/09 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 11/24/09 at 1:13 pm to barry
Chavis gets an A+ in my book.
Not because his defense has been dominant, but because his defense is on the field the whole game.
IF, our Offense was competent, I would bet the D would be a lot better.
Funny how that works.
Not because his defense has been dominant, but because his defense is on the field the whole game.
IF, our Offense was competent, I would bet the D would be a lot better.
Funny how that works.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 1:14 pm to barry
Several outstanding defensive players being redshirted this year, Hicks, Davenport, Montgomery,Brockers and Loston will infuse some much needed quickness and talent to the Chief's defense next season. Looks like the scheme is as good as he had at UT. Just needs the right sort of talent to play effectively. Even so, with an effective offense this season, this would probably be a top 3 or 4 defense in scoring and yardage. They are usually playing exhausted by the fourth quarter.
This post was edited on 11/24/09 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 11/24/09 at 1:14 pm to barry
I haven't been one of those. The defense is giving up a lot of yards in between the 20's but has been very good in the red zone. They have been on the field a lot due to our offense. The defense ins't the problem but I just hope we don't jumt the gun and give chavis a huge raise and extension just yet. We have enough money tied up to peeps who aren't worth what they are getting paid.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 1:15 pm to barry
easy schedule
we're not that good in yards/game, which is more indicative of your ranking
we're not that good in yards/game, which is more indicative of your ranking
Posted on 11/24/09 at 1:19 pm to barry
The "bend but don't break" defense gives your offense fewer opportunities to score.
Every time you give up a "3rd and Chavis", you have 3 fewer plays to move the ball yourself.
Overall, I think we are ranked 28th or so on defense, below 4 or 5 SEC teams. That's good, but not fantastic. A lot of those stats were built up during that ULL/Vandy/MSU/UGA run, too.
Every time you give up a "3rd and Chavis", you have 3 fewer plays to move the ball yourself.
Overall, I think we are ranked 28th or so on defense, below 4 or 5 SEC teams. That's good, but not fantastic. A lot of those stats were built up during that ULL/Vandy/MSU/UGA run, too.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 1:20 pm to barry
I think the plays per game differential falls on both the offense and defense.
The defense isn't close to the cluster it was last year and this is improvement. But it's not the end all.
The defense needs to force more three and outs and help with field position. This has been an issue even early in games before the defense is gassed.
The defense isn't close to the cluster it was last year and this is improvement. But it's not the end all.
The defense needs to force more three and outs and help with field position. This has been an issue even early in games before the defense is gassed.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 1:21 pm to barry
There are two reasons our offense sucks, and one of them is entirely on Chavis. Part of the reason we get so few plays and possessions on offense is that Chavis refuses to actually stop the other team with aggressive play calling. We give up 3rd downs, especially 3rd and longs at a ridiculous clip.
The UF game is a perfect example. While we held them to 13 (including a missed FG), they kept our offense off the field and dominated TOP.
Same in several other games. The defense is not DICTATING the play. The Ole Miss game plan was horrendous. I am sorry. We let them run and pass all over us and got lucky our defense stopped them several times inside the 20. You can't keep expecting your defense to hold up like that. Look at the MSU game.
The only decently coached defensive games this season were Auburn and UGA. Otherwise, Bend-don't-Break defense hurt our team.
The UF game is a perfect example. While we held them to 13 (including a missed FG), they kept our offense off the field and dominated TOP.
Same in several other games. The defense is not DICTATING the play. The Ole Miss game plan was horrendous. I am sorry. We let them run and pass all over us and got lucky our defense stopped them several times inside the 20. You can't keep expecting your defense to hold up like that. Look at the MSU game.
The only decently coached defensive games this season were Auburn and UGA. Otherwise, Bend-don't-Break defense hurt our team.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 1:35 pm to barry
Our point of attack needs improvement. Defensive Line improves and the yardage allowed will improve. We have a great secondary and good linebackers. If the DL is not getting sacks or plugging runs teams are going to get yardage. As the field gets shorter secondaries and linebackers have more of an effect. I know that sounds weird but they don't have to worry about deep threats when teams are at the 15 yard line. The DBs can play up and the linebackers can play closer to the line and less in pass coverage.
LSU's DL should be better next year and you will see an improvement in yardage given up.
LSU's DL should be better next year and you will see an improvement in yardage given up.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 1:35 pm to barry
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Cause i sure see a lot of, "The jury is still out on Chavis" and "3rd and Chavis" comments
Did you miss the last three games? Specifically, did you miss the first half against La Tech and Ole Miss?
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