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I’m having trouble justifying my stance against the death penalty…

Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:46 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
70890 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:46 am
Over the years, I have become more and more against the death penalty, but this case involving the murder of Athena Strand, a young girl who screamed and pleaded for her mother as her kidnapper brutally molested and murdered her, is really testing my limits.



Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
59281 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:47 am to
Man some things just shouldn’t be posted. My fault for clicking the thread but I didn’t think it would this bad.
Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
Member since Jul 2010
19083 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:48 am to
if you kill someone on purpose you should die.

Shouldn't be that difficult of a conundrum.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
15584 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:49 am to
Most people against the death penalty (when older) are just aware of how corrupt the government machine is, in everything. In this case, government ineptitude will get the guy life in prison instead of the jab.
Posted by jpainter6174
Boss city
Member since Feb 2014
6679 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:51 am to
If you have a hard time grappling with if he should be killed, you are part of the problem. They should take him behind the court house and pop him in the back of the head with a .22.
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
1138 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:51 am to
I am against death penalty if replaced by torture. Worse the crime, slower the torture. This event earns perp 90-days of torture in my kingdom - 90th day he will be given a choice - suicide or 90-days more. Rinse/repeat. Game of Thrones comes for his evil soul.
This post was edited on 4/19/26 at 9:53 am
Posted by Onyx Aggie
Foothills of the Smokies
Member since Sep 2012
2803 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:52 am to
I have no issue with the death penalty in theory. My problem is I don't trust the government to properly implement it.

Both cops and prosecutors have shown time and again they will either fabricate evidence indicating guilt or withhold exculpitory evidence when it suits them.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26634 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:53 am to
quote:

If you have a hard time grappling with if he should be killed, you are part of the problem.


Wtf

Go ahead and explain this one.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74164 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:54 am to
I'm actually more hard core. I don't think we kill enough people. Also with DNA evidence they shouldn't live 10+ years waiting.
I would lock some of these scum in a put and let them starve.
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
11208 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:57 am to
quote:

My problem is I don't trust the government to properly implement it.


Yep, I have two main problems with it.

(1) I can't trust the government to have a 100% success rate which means we would be sentencing some innocent people to death.

(2) The cost of carrying out the death penalty is substantially more expensive than sentencing a person to life in prison.
Posted by jpainter6174
Boss city
Member since Feb 2014
6679 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:58 am to
What’s there to explain, if you think the guy who raped and murdered a little girl shouldn’t be put to death, then your soft on crime stance is why people continue to commit crimes. No different than the judges who continually release repeat offenders until they rape and murder some one.

This is why Singapore is one of the safest countries in the world because they don’t put up with bullshite.
Posted by ColoradoCock
Member since Apr 2025
344 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 10:03 am to
Grow some fricking balls. Its pathetic that you dont support the death penalty. These lunatics know they can kill and be released back into population during their lifetime.

Bring back brutal executions so people are scared to commit crime and stop being a pussy
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
9365 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 10:03 am to
Are you pro-abortion?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26634 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 10:03 am to
quote:

What’s there to explain, if you think the guy who raped and murdered a little girl shouldn’t be put to death, then your soft on crime stance is why people continue to commit crimes. No different than the judges who continually release repeat offenders until they rape and murder some one.

This is why Singapore is one of the safest countries in the world because they don’t put up with bullshite.


I want to understand your argument.

You think the death penalty is a deterrent to such behavior?

You think justice deters evil decision-making.
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
6881 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 10:04 am to
Sometimes there are people who no matter what are just not compatible to live amongst the rest of us. Unfortunate, but it is what it is.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13686 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 10:05 am to
quote:

The cost of carrying out the death penalty is substantially more expensive than sentencing a person to life in prison.


Then we need to streamline it and make it cheaper.
Posted by jpainter6174
Boss city
Member since Feb 2014
6679 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 10:07 am to
Let’s look up this guys rap sheet, I bet he didn’t just wake up one day and say hey I’m going to rape and murder someone..

Yes I think if you are more tougher on crimes and have harsher consequences then people will think twice before doing something. Not just the mentality of “hey I get 3 hots and a cot for the rest of my life watching tv with my homies”…
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
13083 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 10:07 am to
Man look. If this guy did what hes accused of, and we have irrefutable proof, I wont lose any sleep over his death.

But we know we have put innocent people to death so I cant really be pro death penalty. Doesnt really seem to be much of a deterrent either.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21640 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 10:07 am to
The photo is haunting. This guy should be placed in a wood chipper feet first.
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
5152 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 10:08 am to
quote:

I have no issue with the death penalty in theory. My problem is I don't trust the government to properly implement it.

Both cops and prosecutors have shown time and again they will either fabricate evidence indicating guilt or withhold exculpitory evidence when it suits them.

This is exactly it. Imprisonment for the rest of their lives solves the problem just as effectively if they are guilty, without risking a horrible and irreversible mistake. How many exonerations from technological advancement do we need before people realize that maybe there's value in leaving open the chance, however remote, that the government made a mistake due to incompetence or simple technological failure?

I would also add this: look at how passionate some of the responses in here are. Wanting to torture people to death, declaring those of us who understand the government can make mistakes to be "part of the problem," etc. I think it's a problem when the counterargument is pure bloodlust and not rooted in any rational basis for why execution, specifically, is needed over imprisonment until they die.
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