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Why is it always the Roman Catholic Church that gets political
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:22 pm
I’m a life long Roman Catholic trying hard to come back to the church after all its scandals and my own laziness. And now they pick a fight with Trump over their objection to our immigration enforcement. While they have a zero immigration policy in their nation the Vatican.
Does anyone here follow the Eastern Orthodox Catholic Church and do they have the same scandals and liberal political entanglements that the Roman Catholic Church has?
Does anyone here follow the Eastern Orthodox Catholic Church and do they have the same scandals and liberal political entanglements that the Roman Catholic Church has?
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:25 pm to Royalfishing
It's not just Catholics. Almost every religion has a political side to it. Just look at the latest split with the Methodist Church
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:25 pm to Royalfishing
Orthodox Church is based, but they are definitely prone to foreign political influences as well. However, their more decentralized structure doesn’t give the same opportunities as the Pope has to speak “on behalf of all Catholics…”
The Catholics, for as woke as the Jesuits are, are still more based than nearly any other Christian denomination outside of the Orthodox Church.
The Catholics, for as woke as the Jesuits are, are still more based than nearly any other Christian denomination outside of the Orthodox Church.
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:38 pm to kingbob
Also, Leo isn't always on the side of globalists:
Called out censorship
Being pro immigration and antiwar are natural Christian positions. The swamp is pro immigration for nefarious reasons (and is very pro war).
Called out censorship
Being pro immigration and antiwar are natural Christian positions. The swamp is pro immigration for nefarious reasons (and is very pro war).
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:39 pm to Royalfishing
Orthodox here.
Not having a pope is a blessing.
First among equals.
Not having a pope is a blessing.
First among equals.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:41 pm to Royalfishing
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I’m a life long Roman Catholic trying hard to come back to the church after all its scandals and my own laziness. And now they pick a fight with Trump over their objection to our immigration enforcement. While they have a zero immigration policy in their nation the Vatican.
Does anyone here follow the Eastern Orthodox Catholic Church and do they have the same scandals and liberal political entanglements that the Roman Catholic Church has?
I left the Church for the same reason, believe the same things basically I did when I was a member and will explain all of it to whoever is at the gates of heaven and they can decide who is right and who was wrong.
I don't owe my faith to a church run by people who covered up pedo abuse for generations in my hometown, I owe it to my lord and savior Jesus Christ.
Having just read his response to seeing the temple again this Easter I suspect he will understand.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:43 pm to Royalfishing
I’m team Pope all the way. I’ve had enough of Trump’s lies this 2nd term. He’s a blackmailed prisoner at this point.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:44 pm to Royalfishing
Are you aware that Vatican City is a country and the Pope is a head of state?
I'm Catholic and don't agree with much of the Pope's political opinions, but he's a bit different than the head of other religions.
I'm Catholic and don't agree with much of the Pope's political opinions, but he's a bit different than the head of other religions.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:47 pm to HailToTheChiz
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t's not just Catholics. Almost every religion has a political side to it. Just look at the latest split with the Methodist Church
Yep it’s just not noticed as much because the preachers are disparate, whereas the Pope speaks for ALL Catholics.
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:48 pm to Royalfishing
You never see Islam or Judaism getting political, right? Its always those damn Catholics that are the problem.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:48 pm to Royalfishing
I get where you’re coming from because I was in a very similar place. I grew up Catholic, walked away for about 15 years, and only came back about a year ago. What brought me back wasn’t politics or personalities, it was digging into philosophy, theology, and actually studying Scripture in context along with the early Church and the Church Fathers. The deeper I went, the harder it became to justify staying away. The Catholic position just held together historically and intellectually in a way I couldn’t ignore.
On the politics side, the Church isn’t “picking fights,” it’s doing what it has always done, speaking on moral issues that inevitably overlap with public policy. That’s not new and it isn’t unique to one political figure. The Vatican also isn’t comparable to a modern nation-state in the way people frame it, so that talking point usually misses the mark.
As for scandals and failures, yeah, they’re real and they’re serious. But that was actually part of what I had to wrestle with. If the truth of the Church depends on the holiness of every person in it, then Christianity collapses immediately. The New Testament itself is full of flawed leaders. What I came to accept is that individuals can fail badly, but that doesn’t undo what Christ established. The Church isn’t true because Catholics are perfect. It’s true because of who founded it.
And on Orthodoxy, they have many of the same strengths and also their own internal issues. The question for me stopped being “which group has the least problems” and became “what did Christ actually establish, and where is that continuity today?” Once I approached it that way, the answer wasn’t driven by scandals or politics anymore. My family actually came from Lebanon and were Maronite Catholics. Eastern Catholicism is great and I pray daily that we will come under communion with our Orthodox brothers.
On the politics side, the Church isn’t “picking fights,” it’s doing what it has always done, speaking on moral issues that inevitably overlap with public policy. That’s not new and it isn’t unique to one political figure. The Vatican also isn’t comparable to a modern nation-state in the way people frame it, so that talking point usually misses the mark.
As for scandals and failures, yeah, they’re real and they’re serious. But that was actually part of what I had to wrestle with. If the truth of the Church depends on the holiness of every person in it, then Christianity collapses immediately. The New Testament itself is full of flawed leaders. What I came to accept is that individuals can fail badly, but that doesn’t undo what Christ established. The Church isn’t true because Catholics are perfect. It’s true because of who founded it.
And on Orthodoxy, they have many of the same strengths and also their own internal issues. The question for me stopped being “which group has the least problems” and became “what did Christ actually establish, and where is that continuity today?” Once I approached it that way, the answer wasn’t driven by scandals or politics anymore. My family actually came from Lebanon and were Maronite Catholics. Eastern Catholicism is great and I pray daily that we will come under communion with our Orthodox brothers.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:51 pm to Brosef Stalin
The big difference is that no other major religion with even a fraction of followers has as rigid a top-down structure with a clear leader as the Catholic Church.
There is no head Pharisee in Jerusalem who can speak for all Jews. There’s like 50 different subdivisions of just Baptists. None of the sects of Islam agree on listening to the directives of one single Imam. The only other religious leader with similar political stroke is the Dali Lama.
There is no head Pharisee in Jerusalem who can speak for all Jews. There’s like 50 different subdivisions of just Baptists. None of the sects of Islam agree on listening to the directives of one single Imam. The only other religious leader with similar political stroke is the Dali Lama.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:53 pm to Royalfishing
The Roman Catholic Church has always been political. Look at the control the church had over Europe the past 1000-1500 years.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:56 pm to Royalfishing
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Why is it always the Roman Catholic Church that gets political
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:57 pm to Royalfishing
Jesuits
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:58 pm to METAL
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On the politics side, the Church isn’t “picking fights,”
Yes, CAtholic leadership is picking this fight
Had they a proven track record for going after pedophilia priests, then maybe one could believe you. But since they protected them instead, its simply bullshite that they keep going after Trump.
Trump was sworn-in in Jan, then they pick the 1st American pope in May? Lulz, its all theater in the Catholic church now. They arent protecting scripture, they want that USAID and NGO grift
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:58 pm to Royalfishing
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Why is it always the Roman Catholic Church that gets political
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 5:00 pm to Royalfishing
For starters, the Orthodox Church is functionally non-existent beyond Greece, the eastern balkans, and Russia/Belarus/Ukraine.
The Orthodox Church doesn’t have anywhere close to the platform the RCC does.
The Orthodox Church doesn’t have anywhere close to the platform the RCC does.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 5:04 pm to Royalfishing
I love most of the Catholics I know. We all grew up together in Louisiana. But I'm done with these Communist Popes.
If he wants a fight, then Trump should hand him all he can stand. Go mind your flock padre.
If he wants a fight, then Trump should hand him all he can stand. Go mind your flock padre.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 5:08 pm to RobbBobb
Disclaimer: I want all the pedos and people involved thrown feet first into a wood chipper…
I’m not defending the failures, they were real and evil, and people will answer for them… But if moral failure disqualifies someone from speaking truth, then no one gets to speak, including you. That standard collapses everything, not just the Catholic Church.
The Church isn’t “going after Trump,” it’s applying moral teaching to political issues like it always has, regardless of who’s in power. Sometimes that aligns with a party, sometimes it doesn’t. And the conspiracy angle just doesn’t hold up. The Church doesn’t pick popes to counter politicians, and reducing it to grift ignores 2,000 years of theology and continuity. If you want to reject it, fine, but it has to be on theological and historical grounds, not just anger over its failures.
I’m not defending the failures, they were real and evil, and people will answer for them… But if moral failure disqualifies someone from speaking truth, then no one gets to speak, including you. That standard collapses everything, not just the Catholic Church.
The Church isn’t “going after Trump,” it’s applying moral teaching to political issues like it always has, regardless of who’s in power. Sometimes that aligns with a party, sometimes it doesn’t. And the conspiracy angle just doesn’t hold up. The Church doesn’t pick popes to counter politicians, and reducing it to grift ignores 2,000 years of theology and continuity. If you want to reject it, fine, but it has to be on theological and historical grounds, not just anger over its failures.
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