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re: Why is it always the Roman Catholic Church that gets political
Posted on 4/14/26 at 5:09 pm to Captain Rumbeard
Posted on 4/14/26 at 5:09 pm to Captain Rumbeard
You can still be Catholic and disagree with the Pope. Believe it or not.
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 5:09 pm to Royalfishing
What does it say about us that immigration and war have become political issues?
Posted on 4/14/26 at 5:09 pm to Ailsa
The conspiracy theorist with poor theology is back.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 5:10 pm to METAL
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The Church isn’t “going after Trump
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Before he became Pope Leo XIV, Cardinal Robert Prevost was on Twitter trashing Trump, criticizing Vance, calling for open borders, promoting COVID vaccines, endorsing stricter gun control, and tweeting after George Floyd:
"We need to hear more from leaders in the Church, to reject racism and seek justice."
The account was deleted the day he was elected
Posted on 4/14/26 at 5:11 pm to Ailsa
I think I found your problem. Reading comprehension.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 5:21 pm to METAL
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I think I found your problem. Reading comprehension.
I think I found your problem, social gospel
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Social Gospel is a movement that aims to apply Christian ethics to social problems, especially issues of social justice such as economic inequality, poverty, alcoholism, crime, racial tensions, slums, unclean environment, child labor, lack of unionization, poor schools, and the dangers of war. It was most prominent in the early 20th-century United States and Canada.
Hmmm, lets see the new pope has hit on economic equality, dangers of war, poverty, racial tensions, and the environment, and hes not even a year in
Lulz
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 4/14/26 at 5:25 pm to Royalfishing
It’s hard not to take a side when the U.S. government under democratic control drops a over a billion dollars into Catholic Charities.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 5:26 pm to Royalfishing
DOGE cut off all that illegal immigration money they were receiving.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 5:28 pm to RobbBobb
That’s not “social gospel,” that’s just basic Christianity. Scripture speaks constantly about the poor, justice, and the dangers of war, alongside personal morality. Caring about those things isn’t a modern invention, it’s in the Bible.
Also, mentioning those issues doesn’t mean ignoring everything else. The Church has consistently taught on life, marriage, and sin as well. You’re acting like it’s either or, when it’s both.
And there’s a big distinction you’re missing. The Church is calling for Christian moral principles, not dictating specific economic systems or foreign policy. Saying we should care for the poor or pursue justice isn’t the same as endorsing forced socialism or any particular political program. Those are prudential decisions. The moral call is binding, the policy application isn’t.
Also, mentioning those issues doesn’t mean ignoring everything else. The Church has consistently taught on life, marriage, and sin as well. You’re acting like it’s either or, when it’s both.
And there’s a big distinction you’re missing. The Church is calling for Christian moral principles, not dictating specific economic systems or foreign policy. Saying we should care for the poor or pursue justice isn’t the same as endorsing forced socialism or any particular political program. Those are prudential decisions. The moral call is binding, the policy application isn’t.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 5:30 pm to SelaTiger
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I’m team Pope all the way
Congrats on being a useful idiot duped by Soros corruption of the Catholic Church.
Are you incapable of discernment? Trump has a valid point in “Where was Leo when Iran has slaughtered tens of thousands of Americans and many of its own citizens?”
Use your brain or read Revelation again.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 5:34 pm to METAL
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That’s not “social gospel,” that’s just basic Christianity.
They conveniently forget these things when they could attack the disgusting Democrats on all their anti-Christian ways. And what is basic Christian about supporting Islam?
Posted on 4/14/26 at 5:36 pm to DallasTiger11
The Catholic Church speaks out specifically about abortion all the time. Additionally, no one supports Islam within the church. Love the sinner, hate the sin. We need to convince them of the truth, as opposed to the satanic garbage they’ve been brainwashed to believe.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 5:38 pm to Royalfishing
I plan to do what I can to make the RCC as MAGA as possible. Leftism is bad for the RCC and bad for everything.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 5:40 pm to Champagne
Agreed, brother. Even with all the ridiculous things, Trump has said or done lately, which was capped off by the post of himself as Jesus, I’m still team Trump and Republican through and through. Just incredibly disappointing to see him post that then not own it or apologize.
Said a rosary for Trump immediately after I saw him post that.
Said a rosary for Trump immediately after I saw him post that.
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 4/14/26 at 6:35 pm to METAL
As someone who straddles the worlds of the Orthodox and Catholics I can tell you that both have their problems just as the Protestants do. The Orthodox being such a small presence in the US keep their scandals very much covered up. There's been more than one Greek Orthodox priest and Metropolitan that have been removed or "reassigned" overseas due to participating in a skim of finances and sexual impropriety. The OCA isn't all that big in the US....maybe 1.5 million in reality. They don't get political here, but go overseas like to Greece and especially Russia where the Church and Putin are virtually joined at the hip. The Russian Orthodox Priests had been known as horn dogs back in the day and apparently they did not discriminate.
The Catholics are more pronounced because there are close to 65 million adherents so that translates into increased visibility because unlike the Orthodox, the Catholics have churches, primary schools and universities. What makes the Catholics unique, is the prohibition on clergy from being married. Orthodox priests at least on the Parish level can get married but the higher up you go you can't
But, to suggest that a Roman or Greek Prelate should not speak out on moral issues affecting their flock as well as others is realistic and disingenuous. People have no beef with the Catholics so long as their common causes align like on abortion and even on homosexual marriage which they absolutely are against. But, the second the Catholic Church asserts a position they have had for centuries on matters like immigration or in this case killing people in a war, " Oh, no, how dare the Catholics and the Pope talk about that" Nevermind that the Vatican and John Paul were on record as being against the Iraq War. The Catholics Church was very much opposed to Vietnam as well. Not to say the Church has been perfect, it hasn't, neither have the Orthodox. Some of the stuff that the Greek Church turned a blind eye to in the aftermath of WWI in coastal Turkey would give you pause. Protestants have been no better. Calvin was no angel, English preachers in the 1600s had no qualms about killing Catholics.
The Catholics are more pronounced because there are close to 65 million adherents so that translates into increased visibility because unlike the Orthodox, the Catholics have churches, primary schools and universities. What makes the Catholics unique, is the prohibition on clergy from being married. Orthodox priests at least on the Parish level can get married but the higher up you go you can't
But, to suggest that a Roman or Greek Prelate should not speak out on moral issues affecting their flock as well as others is realistic and disingenuous. People have no beef with the Catholics so long as their common causes align like on abortion and even on homosexual marriage which they absolutely are against. But, the second the Catholic Church asserts a position they have had for centuries on matters like immigration or in this case killing people in a war, " Oh, no, how dare the Catholics and the Pope talk about that" Nevermind that the Vatican and John Paul were on record as being against the Iraq War. The Catholics Church was very much opposed to Vietnam as well. Not to say the Church has been perfect, it hasn't, neither have the Orthodox. Some of the stuff that the Greek Church turned a blind eye to in the aftermath of WWI in coastal Turkey would give you pause. Protestants have been no better. Calvin was no angel, English preachers in the 1600s had no qualms about killing Catholics.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 6:55 pm to kingbob
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Orthodox Church is based, but they are definitely prone to foreign political influences as well.
Don't forget their own host country's whims too. Russian Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, Lithuanian Orthodox ...
Latvian Orthodox ....
Posted on 4/14/26 at 7:52 pm to Royalfishing
Tradition?
It's no historical secret they have desired to be the theocratic one world government. Aside from that, they've always used their followers as kind of a voter bloc to sway elections.
It's no historical secret they have desired to be the theocratic one world government. Aside from that, they've always used their followers as kind of a voter bloc to sway elections.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 7:58 pm to Royalfishing
It was politics that put Jesus on the cross, and it will be politics that is the impetus for His return.
It is impossible to separate politics from religion, as if politics goes bad, then religion can be corrupted. Or simply terminated. I well remember Charles Krauthamer saying that "if you get your politics wrong, it all goes bad from there". Charles was a wise and honest person.
It is impossible to separate politics from religion, as if politics goes bad, then religion can be corrupted. Or simply terminated. I well remember Charles Krauthamer saying that "if you get your politics wrong, it all goes bad from there". Charles was a wise and honest person.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 8:00 pm to theballguy
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Don't forget their own host country's whims too. Russian Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, Lithuanian Orthodox ...
Latvian Orthodox ....
Orthodox is like Catholicism but wrapped up in Nationalism.
Cool services though. Beautiful liturgy
Posted on 4/14/26 at 8:10 pm to Royalfishing
Pope sucks....he doesn't represent my Catholic views.
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