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If you believe Israel is sovereign and Jews the right to their own state you’re a Zionist
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:07 am
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:07 am
Conversely, if you believe America is sovereign and within their right to their own country, you’re simply an American. The exact same can be said for any other country and people.
There’s clearly a difference in the way these two are spoken about. One is clearly criticized, condemned and then castigated as being dirty and the other is just rational thinking.
Ever stop to consider just who makes Zionism a dirty word?
There’s clearly a difference in the way these two are spoken about. One is clearly criticized, condemned and then castigated as being dirty and the other is just rational thinking.
Ever stop to consider just who makes Zionism a dirty word?
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:10 am to Mike da Tigah
Some Anti-Zionists believe Israel doesn’t have a right to exist.
Some do not ascribe to that.
Those in former camp are explicitly Hamas bros.
Some do not ascribe to that.
Those in former camp are explicitly Hamas bros.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:11 am to Mike da Tigah
Correct me if I’m looking at your analogy wrong, but it’s seems to be the same people who hate Israel also think America is on stolen land and we have no right to be here as a nation
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:14 am to Mike da Tigah
Because Zionist is just a way to say jew without saying it.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:14 am to Purple Spoon
Leftists only believe colonialism is good if Marxists do it.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:16 am to Purple Spoon
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think America is on stolen land and we have no right to be here as a nation
I know they SAY this is what they believe, but deep down it isn't, since they always seem to exempt themselves or their own property from this mandate (hello Billie Eilish)
They do, however, truly believe that Israel has no right to exist, because of Jews=bad, and well.. the fact that the other team is brown and brown is good.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:18 am to Mike da Tigah
Why does a religion have some right to their own state? They are incapable of defending their state without America. They exist only because we allow them to exist. At some point all the dumb boomers die off and no one is willing to fund their existence any longer.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:19 am to Mike da Tigah
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Conversely, if you believe America is sovereign and within their right to their own country, you’re simply an American.
Disagree.
You usually hear "maggat" or "white nationalist" if these views are commented on.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:21 am to Mike da Tigah
quote:mostly it’s the Zionists. They are evil, Godless people who will burn in hell.
Ever stop to consider just who makes Zionism a dirty word?
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:25 am to Mike da Tigah
quote:well yeah. One of those has already defeated their enemy and conquered the land, called it their own, and defended it from foreign invaders.
There’s clearly a difference in the way these two are spoken about.
The other refused to defeat their enemy, refused to take the land that God promised them, and now demands that Americans go do that work for them. And if you disagree at all, you are slandered.
Israel doesn't currently "own" what they think they are due, and they want us to do the dirty work for them because they've rejected Yahweh's demands and covenant for thousands of years.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:26 am to Powerman
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Why does a religion have some right to their own state? They are incapable of defending their state without America. They exist only because we allow them to exist. At some point all the dumb boomers die off and no one is willing to fund their existence any longer.
Here is a good example.
Powerman is only talking about one state. The Jewish one. No mention of any other state.
If Israel was a Christian nation, you wouldn't be saying the same things.
These Jewish tropes predate the state of Israel by centuries. Your anti semitism predates Israel.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:27 am to Purple Spoon
That isnt even close to being true anymore
the most anti Zionist voices today are Americans Nationalists, anti Immigration, pro US along with the far left
the most anti Zionist voices today are Americans Nationalists, anti Immigration, pro US along with the far left
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:28 am to Powerman
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Why does a religion have some right to their own state?
It’s not just a religion. It’s a people. If this were over religion deserving their own state, then we’d hear the same level of criticism over the Islamic states, and yet we don’t. At the very least there would be a distinction made between believing/practicing Jews and non believing Jews, and that’s not done either. It’s just Jews as a blanket statement, and all of this considering that Israel has more religious freedom than any other country in the region by light years. The rest are run as theocratic dictatorships forcing their religion on everyone in their country, kicking Jews especially out of their lands, which largely resulted in the modern state of Israel.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:28 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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mostly it’s the Zionists. They are evil, Godless people who will burn in hell.
Replace zionist with jew and that's what he really means.
You are using zionist as a blanket slur to dehumanize people.
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 8:32 am
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:28 am to Mike da Tigah
I’ve been called a racist for most of the things I do for decades.
Being called a zionist is refreshing.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:30 am to Powerman
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Why does a religion have some right to their own state?
There we go. Let it out.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:31 am to Mike da Tigah
When Americans look down on & see themselves as better than people from third world shite holes it’s ok
When joos look down on & see themselves as better than other people it’s bad
When joos look down on & see themselves as better than other people it’s bad
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 8:31 am
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:31 am to dgnx6
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If this were over religion deserving their own state, then we’d hear the same level of criticism over the Islamic states, and yet we don’t.
Yes, they apply standards to Israel that they don't apply to any other nation.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:34 am to Mike da Tigah
When America protects its borders & tries to gain land it’s good
When Israel protects its borders & tries to gain land it’s bad
When Israel protects its borders & tries to gain land it’s bad
Posted on 3/31/26 at 8:34 am to Mike da Tigah
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If you believe Israel is sovereign and Jews the right to their own state you’re a Zionist
What if I believe Israel is a sovereign nation but that no religious group “has the right” to their own state. Israeli’s have a right to their nation that they’ve established.
Believing that global Jews have a right to the Holy Land is what makes you a Zionist.
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 8:35 am
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