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The US doesn't really care about anything but securing assets

Posted on 3/13/26 at 1:57 am
Posted by FAT SEXY
California
Member since Jun 2020
1859 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 1:57 am
That's why we're doing the things we're doing. To make sure we have the proper materials to continue lurching forward in this technological age.

Dumbarses like Maduro and the Ayatollah saber rattling with bluffs gave us the perfect excuse to call it as cover for the real plan.

This was always about oil/critical minerals.

China is probably getting pissed that we're ramshacking their inroads on such things.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
19133 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 1:59 am to
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ramshacking


That sounds fat.. and sexy.
Posted by MississippiTigerGirl
Brookhaven, MS
Member since Sep 2007
581 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 2:11 am to
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
19608 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 3:33 am to
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China is probably getting pissed that we're ramshacking their inroads on such things.


We are just getting started with the Chinese.

When AI hits full stride good luck China and India. Train ride over. Bad white man no longer needs cheap manpower from other countries.

Also, China is getting its first look at why investing heavily in Africa is not wise. How they didn’t find this out until 2025 is beyond incredible because everyone thinks they are so smart!!!

lol.
This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 3:35 am
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
10307 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 6:16 am to
$1 to sync:

quote:

via Alyosha…an energy trader:

The key to ending this war for both sides is cash flow from the proceeds of oil. If the Strait of Hormuz stays shut Iran has a form of plenary power. If the Strait is open, Iran must negotiate. Although this is imperfect I think it will work: A public announcement (via the White House or US Treasury):

The United States will not tolerate Iran’s illegal blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, which is starving global markets of energy and punishing innocent nations. Therefore,we announce the following interim measure to restore a partial or completely free flow of oil shipments to protect our allies and global economies:

Any crude oil or petroleum products that successfully transit the Strait of Hormuz…whether Iran selectively allows it or not…will be subject to US-monitored redirection when vessels exit the eastern end of the strait into the Gulf of Oman and cargoes move into the high seas.

The US (via Treasury/OFAC or a new wartime task force) will immediately compensate the cargo owners and/or exporters at prevailing spot-market prices upon boarding/verification in safe waters. The core intent of the Compensated Redirection Mechanism (CRM) is to allow bona fide non-combatant transactions—on legitimate GCC-origin crude on neutral-flagged tankers heading to scheduled destinations…to proceed freely after quick verification, without disruption beyond the boarding check.

Compensation to be paid in US dollars. Redirected oil will be resold, auctioned, or transferred at cost or below to high-need partners hardest hit by the crisis. The US does not keep it under any circumstances. This is an emergency humanitarian and economic stabilization initiative, not seizure.

Owners get paid promptly, with no loss on paper, and the world gets a stabilized supply.

However, if Iran insists on blockading, the Strait will remain closed to ALL shipping indefinitely until Iran accepts the only condition precluding peace: forgoing possession of and capability to produce nuclear weapons. The case for action: Iranian crude exports continue to pass through the Strait at a notable pace of 1 to 1.5 million bpd via a handful of sanctioned VLCCs (Reuters). Total Iranian exports since February 27 are reported at 11.7–16.5 million barrels, mostly heading to China via the strait (CNBC). If Iran decides to respond to this initiative by hermetically sealing the Strait, including a blockade on Iranian ships, it would be economic suicide for Tehran and the single fastest way to break the current stalemate.

Iran is still quietly slipping 1 or 2 VLCCs through the strait every day. Those exports have delivered an estimated 16+ million barrels since the war started. It’s the only real cash flow they have left. A total self-blockade would mean no hard money for imports, public subsidies, and military salaries. Inflation, already 50%, would spontaneously hyperinflate.

The regime knows from 2019 and 2022 what zero cash flow does to street protests. The solution is to say,“Iran can control whoever passes through the strait, but the US Navy will redirect those ships.” Alternatively, if necessary, the US can opt to seal the strait unilaterally and cut off all cash flow to Tehran.

The GCC nations have deeper reserves to weather several weeks of pain than Tehran, especially if the US, GCC, and their allies bring all conceivable pressure to bear on Iran to return to the table.

This is an asymmetric idea… that flips Iran’s physical chokehold into legal wartime interdiction without sending US warships into a kill zone that is prolonging a lethal stalemate.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23730 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 7:10 am to
Honestly what other reason is there for any country in the history of the world to fight over?

It’s always about assets of some type. Oil, sugar, ports, tea, coffee, tobacco, diamonds, land, animal pelts, etc. absolutely nothing new here at all.

You seem to think the US is the only country that wants to secure assets. Been this way since before the Romans. Secure them or lose them.

No other reason to fight. Every country needs secure assets.

If Iran started big trouble in the Middle East and oil went to $175 barrel and diesel and gas doubled in price here.., you would probably be the first motherfricker bitching and whining about it.

Just STFU.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19961 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 7:11 am to
It's like the drug addict robbing the mansion to get that final fix.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19961 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 7:13 am to
China has the factories, they will adjust and win in the long term. India is not far behind. Most gold is owned by Indian households, while Chinese govt encourages citizens to own gold.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
1854 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 7:18 am to
And your point is? That applies to every single nation on the planet
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17835 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 7:19 am to
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quote:
ramshacking


That sounds fat.. and sexy.


I can get my news anywhere else, but this is why I come to TD.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
24565 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 8:26 am to
Your instincts here are correct. The reasons given for this war all surface level b.s.

Anyone who thinks this regime change operation against Iran is primarily about targeting a brutal authoritarian regime is a useful idiot. No one in our nation’s wholly corrupted national apparatus cares one iota about the securing the freedom of the Iranian people.

And securing energy and mineral resources is itself a secondary concern The main goal here is to eliminate any competition to the U.S. greenback:



The primary reason both Venezuela and Iran have been targeted is because they dared to threaten the global supremacy of the USD as the world’s reserve currency. This only underscores the reality that the USD is dependent upon violent coercion to insure it’s continuation as the world’s reserve currency.

This is a pattern we have seen before. And it has nothing to do with securing human rights or opposing authoritarian regimes.

This very likely was the real reason Saddam Hussein was targeted for elimination. Similarly, Muammar Ghaddafi was likely targeted for elimination because he planned a Pan-African gold based currency to challenge the supremacy of the USD.

Libyan Oil, Gold, and Qaddafi: The Strange Email Sidney Blumenthal Sent Hillary Clinton In 2011…



And that brings us to the wellspring of the deepening crisis. One of the primary motivations behind perpetual U.S. intervention in Middle Eastern affairs is not simply about securing access to oil resources; it is instead about preserving the global dominance of the U.S. Dollar and the economic system that supports it.

The Petrodollar Pact with Saudi Arabia is the primary reason the USD is accepted as the world’s reserve currency. After Nixon unilaterally abandoned the Gold Standard, Saudi Arabia agreed to trade oil solely in U.S. Dollars to insure demand for the greenback remained strong.

In return, the U.S. military protected the Saudis from Soviet aggression. Yet while a brilliant piece of political statecraft in it's day, the Petrodollar has been a disaster for the U.S. economically and militarily since at least the end of the Cold War.

Our nation’s corrupt economic and military pact with the House of Saud is in many ways the wellspring of the continuing crisis. “Blood for Oil” has always been a misnomer: the United States has NEVER fought these wars of perpetuity for oil.

There are enough known energy reserves in the Western Hemisphere for our nation to wean itself from dependency on Middle Eastern oil. Yet “Blood for Greenbacks” is another story altogether.

Our entire monetary system is now dependent on manipulation and violent coercion to insure the USD remains the world’s reserve currency. U.S. foreign policy is simply an extension of a “New World Order” — an economic order that favors multinational corporations, global financial institutions and the military-industrial complex over the individual rights of citizens.

This problem is exacerbated by the fact that our nation’s print-on-demand monetary system is the funding mechanism for the Welfare/Warfare State. The Welfare State and the Warfare State aren’t a separate species but instead is a dualistic organism: welfare policies help secure domestic stability and compliance, while warfare maintains external dominance and internal discipline.

This is why both parties support — to varying degrees — endless war, unlimited bailouts and perpetual welfare. It is worth remembering that George W. Bush empowered both the Welfare State and the Warfare State.

Bush’s Medicare Part D represented the largest capture of the healthcare market since the creation of Medicare in 1965 — demonstrating that this pattern crosses conventional partisan boundaries. Trump’s love of bailouts and massive spending bills only accentuates the point.



The current crisis continues until our nation abandons this print-on-demand currency that is propped up by the corrupt Petrodollar pact. Since at least the end of the Cold War, one of the largest criminal conspiracies against the American people and the Constitution has been the damnable lie that American lives should be risked by inserting our nation’s troops into these ancient sectarian conflicts in distant lands.

Nothing will fundamentally change unless this nation returns to a sound monetary system. As things stand, we can expect things to get much worse before they get better.




Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
96611 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 8:28 am to
Oh noz!!

What a pathetic melt from the kommie
Posted by theballguy
Un-PC for either side
Member since Oct 2011
35780 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 8:30 am to
quote:

To make sure we have the proper materials to continue lurching forward in this technological age.


So? All war is about securing resources of some kind. The truth is, they would be doing it to us if they could and indeed a lot of European countries would be doing that to us as well if only they could.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117234 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 9:14 am to
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ramshacking

That sounds fat.. and sexy.

'Ramshacking' is when you allow a male sheep to stay in your house.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37223 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 10:06 am to
quote:

The US doesn't really care about anything but securing assets

It's pretty dang high on the list of importance. With a lack of assets, comes a lack of future.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69941 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 10:19 am to
The supply chain crisis during Covid nailed home the dangers if globalized supply chains. These supply chains can build tremendous wealth, but one weak link causes a chain reaction of collapse. As a result, Trump seems to be pivoting towards a policy of Autarky.

The idea is that the United States should have direct control over and access to all necessary resources required to run its economy in both peacetime and wartime. Autarky is a pre-requisite for waging protracted total war, as such conflicts have a tendency to sever vital supply chains (like we are seeing today with the Straits of Hormuz being effectively blocked). Japan and Germany’s losses in WW2 was assured because they could not supply enough fuel or materials for their war machine. They could win a short conflict with superior planning, technology, and tactics, but they could not replace fuel and equipment once expended. Meanwhile, the naval superiority and logistical superiority of the UK and USA meant that they were never in danger of running out of resources long term.

Trump is ensuring that the U.S. alone has total security to wage total war upon anyone and everyone who opposes any American interest.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
27041 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 10:26 am to
quote:

China is probably getting pissed that we're ramshacking their inroads on such things


China is going to take over every single one of our currently demolished bases in the Middle East once we negotiate to leave as part of the ceasefire deal/offramp with Iran.

Please stop watching the Fox News/boomer/Zionist/neocon propaganda.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
7697 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 10:27 am to
quote:

This was always about oil/critical minerals.

It’s always about oil.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55318 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 10:49 am to
quote:

China is probably getting pissed that we're ramshacking their inroads on such things.


We are just getting started with the Chinese.

When AI hits full stride good luck China and India. Train ride over. Bad white man no longer needs cheap manpower from other countries.

Also, China is getting its first look at why investing heavily in Africa is not wise. How they didn’t find this out until 2025 is beyond incredible because everyone thinks they are so smart!!!




All the more reason Trump 2/0 needs to get hyper focused in deporting 20-25 million illegals currently in the US.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
24565 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 7:35 pm to
quote:


Oh noz!!

What a pathetic melt from the kommie




Look class. Here we have the perfect example of decades of UniParty® indoctrination and/or government schooling.

In SDV we have a low iq and low information voter who can make no argument beyond hurling insults. This is a common tactic among people whose political theory was assembled entirely from bumper stickers, tribal loyalty and a devotion to a personality cult.

Arguing that the government should stop spending money it doesn’t have is now derided as a form of radical extremism. What a sad yet telling commentary that we have reached the point where arguing for fiscal restraint in today’s political climate is seen as a form of Bolshevism by a large swath of voters.




This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 7:37 pm
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