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Thoughts on financial advisors stock picking?
Posted on 2/16/26 at 8:58 am
Posted on 2/16/26 at 8:58 am
I just learned my parents’ financial advisor picks about 15 stocks and just rebalances (solely US large cap). When I pushed back, he claimed that’s the only way to “beat the market”. Has anyone else had encounters with advisors not just indexing in this day and age? I was honestly perplexed, and I feel like that is straight malpractice given the research that indices produce better returns (relative to risk).
Posted on 2/16/26 at 9:10 am to TigahsOnTop
They don’t want the clients to see how easy/effective it is to just invest in VOO, VTI, and QQQ and not have to pay them a fee to do so.
This post was edited on 2/16/26 at 9:11 am
Posted on 2/16/26 at 9:16 am to TigahsOnTop
Most FAs are terrible. You are better off just investing in low fee vanguard ETFs 90%+ of the time
Posted on 2/16/26 at 9:36 am to TigahsOnTop
How does he earn his fees. Does he receive a commission per transaction? A percentage of assets under management?
I'd assume if it's a percentage of assets under management, then he has strong feelings about these stocks (or your parents and him picked them), and he's using this as a method of "controlling the risk". Then again, if this were the case, he'd probably just use new investments to "fix the imbalance".
If it's a commission, then he's most likely using the line about "controlling the risk/beat the market" to beef up his sales. Because he could just use new investments to balance the portfolio
I'd assume if it's a percentage of assets under management, then he has strong feelings about these stocks (or your parents and him picked them), and he's using this as a method of "controlling the risk". Then again, if this were the case, he'd probably just use new investments to "fix the imbalance".
If it's a commission, then he's most likely using the line about "controlling the risk/beat the market" to beef up his sales. Because he could just use new investments to balance the portfolio
Posted on 2/16/26 at 9:57 am to TigahsOnTop
What's his track record? Has he consistently beaten the market for them? I know most don't but just curious if he happens to be one of the lucky/good ones.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 10:43 am to TigahsOnTop
If you want something done right, do it yourself….
Posted on 2/16/26 at 1:50 pm to TigahsOnTop
The best value in advisors in this day and age with the information out there, is in tax planning.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 1:53 pm to castorinho
The robo advisor at Schwab I use is averaging 20% returns since 2023 when I started using it. I don't trust people, so it works out.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 2:42 pm to castorinho
Exactly
Why CFP is also my CPA and that is the only reason I have a CFP
Why CFP is also my CPA and that is the only reason I have a CFP
Posted on 2/16/26 at 2:52 pm to TigahsOnTop
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advisors indexing
Oxymoron
Index (you do not need advisor for this)!
Do not underestimate value of time (n)
Do not overestimate ‘beating mkt’ (k)
(1+k)^n
Leverage time and go enjoy your life.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:00 pm to Lsu05
quote:
They don’t want the clients to see how easy/effective it is to just invest in VOO, VTI, and QQQ and not have to pay them a fee to do so.
I agree. But haven’t those just mirrored the S&P 500 over the past 2 years?
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:32 pm to Willie Stroker
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But haven’t those just mirrored the S&P 500 over the past 2 years?
Is that a bad thing? Basically every advisor underperforms the index over time.
Anyone who says they consistently beat the market is most likely lying
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:50 pm to UltimaParadox
quote:
lying
Or committing fraud. Sometimes both.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 7:43 pm to castorinho
I DYI, but advisors can be valuable for sticking to a strategy for those that would otherwise panic sell. Many people need their hands held. For instance, I recently found out my mom went 100% bonds in her 401k when she retired out of fear. She should have used an advisor or talked to me first.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 2:52 pm to TigahsOnTop
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straight malpractice given the research that indices produce better returns (relative to risk).
Fake news until you show the returns. If it's working you can't just blanket say this. If it's not, so be it.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 3:03 pm to UpstairsComputer
quote:I can assure you, with 100% confidence, that no financial advisor is consistently beating the market with a basket of 15 US large cap stocks. There are hedge funds with access to the top talent, best information, and most resources that struggle to beat the market (RELATIVE TO RISK). Never mistake "outperformance" for excess risk taking.
Fake news until you show the returns. If it's working you can't just blanket say this. If it's not, so be it.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 3:05 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
I didn't even ask for a track record. I can look at a portfolio and know it is trash, and no amount of BS marketing materials will change that. There is no justification you can make for handpicking a couple of large cap stocks (unless you have material information which gives you an edge, which I highly doubt from a local Louisiana firm)
This post was edited on 2/17/26 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 2/17/26 at 3:11 pm to Everyday Is Saturday
quote:
Do not underestimate value of time (n)
Do not overestimate ‘beating mkt’ (k)
(1+k)^n
Leverage time and go enjoy your life.
This would imply that with enough time an advisor could beat the market... but I do appreciate the logic generally.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 3:52 pm to TigahsOnTop
I recently met with a financial planner and they use a strategy of keeping enough funds in bonds and such to cover a set number of years of distributions for living expenses and the remaining funds spread evenly in 30 individual stocks. The stocks are large secure company funds that have a historical record of consistent dividends. For example, the two oil companies in the portfolio are XOM and CVX. The other 28 are the ones everyone recognizes that pay dividends. Dividends are used and shares redistributed to keep the percentages the same and to replenish the bond account. When I retire, I will keep my 401K in all my index funds but am leaning towards letting this group invest my retirement lump sum. They are a no commission firm and their income comes from the annual percentage fee. The other attractive thing about them is they are tax experts.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:25 pm to Ramblin Wreck
quote:Curious how long you have until retirement. There is vast research showing that dividend paying companies underperform the market, so I don’t love that strategy. Otherwise, it sounds like the firm is solid and definitely a good representation of a value-added financial advisor (tax-planning, etc.).
The stocks are large secure company funds that have a historical record of consistent dividends.
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