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Previous Admin vs Current Admin utilizing extremes regarding illegal immigration
Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:11 am
Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:11 am
Let’s be honest, Biden administration did nothing to stop illegal immigration (I don’t think that point can even be argued) and probably was actively encouraging it to potentially increase their political power via demographic changes to help affect congressional seats and add voters if they could figure out how to get them on the voter rolls.
Trump administration clearly stopped illegal immigration which was pretty easy to do if an administration actually tried to do it. Now they are at the point of removing all the people that the Biden administration just let in (or encouraged to come in). Do I think Biden was recruiting many of the bad players that came along? Not necessarily but I also think the central/South America countries saw the opportunity and really weren’t worried that those undesirables left their country.
Is countering an extreme with an extreme the right philosophy? I don’t know how else you respond. The optics were always going to be bad for the Rs bc they had to be the bad guy parents telling their kids no after grandma/grandpa gave the kids candy and unlimited TV while they were at their house.
Trump administration clearly stopped illegal immigration which was pretty easy to do if an administration actually tried to do it. Now they are at the point of removing all the people that the Biden administration just let in (or encouraged to come in). Do I think Biden was recruiting many of the bad players that came along? Not necessarily but I also think the central/South America countries saw the opportunity and really weren’t worried that those undesirables left their country.
Is countering an extreme with an extreme the right philosophy? I don’t know how else you respond. The optics were always going to be bad for the Rs bc they had to be the bad guy parents telling their kids no after grandma/grandpa gave the kids candy and unlimited TV while they were at their house.
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:13 am to STEVED00
Regardless of what side of the immigration issue you’re on …. the blame needs to be placed squarely where it belongs… Congress.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:17 am to STEVED00
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Is countering an extreme with an extreme the right philosophy?
Calling the prevention of illegal entry and removal of illegal aliens "extreme" is part of the problem.
It isn't extreme. It's logical, necessary, and right.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:23 am to STEVED00
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probably was actively encouraging it to potentially increase their political power
Probably?
The Biden admin paid airlines hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to fly 100s of thousands of illegals to cities all over the country, put them on buses, bused them to cities they needed more voters, paid for their hotels with taxpayer money, gave them phones, bags of cash. Probably?
There would be no extreme if like in every other city, the state and city handed over the criminals as they encountered them, like it's been done for 70 years until liberals saw a political advantage with sanctuary cities.
The extreme is allowing sanctuary cities to put dangerous criminals back on the freaking street to kill and rape and rob without handing them over to ICE. Done.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:26 am to STEVED00
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Biden administration did nothing to stop illegal immigration
Lying dog faced pony soldier. He put the Border Czar Kackles on it! She did great!
Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:27 am to STEVED00
Let’s say your toilet is overflowing. Most of it is just water but there’s some shite in there too. Is it enough to just stop the toilet from overflowing? What will your house smell like if you don’t clean up the mess caused by the overflow?
Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:30 am to SallysHuman
I agree. He’s falling into a media narrative trap that somehow enforcing laws under the same protocols and rules of engagement we’ve always had is “extreme”. Ask a liberal to give specific examples of how ICE tactics have changed to become more tyrannical since previous administrations. You’ll probably get some screeching nonsense about masks.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:30 am to STEVED00
There is nothing extreme about what Trump is doing. It is very non-political and middle of the road. Dont let the media brainwash you.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:30 am to STEVED00
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countering an extreme with an extreme the right philosophy
Can you point out what particulary is "extreme"? Federal law enforcement agents attempting to enforce federal laws while being targeted by state authorities and violent communist rioters is extreme?
There is incredibly extreme behavior going on, this is an insurrection.
Can you see that how you posed your question you have already been gaslit by the communist propaganda machine. You dont see the radical extreme behavior is on the left.
This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 8:33 am
Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:32 am to cadillacattack
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Regardless of what side of the immigration issue you’re on …. the blame needs to be placed squarely where it belongs… the people breaking into the country.
FIFY. I have no idea which country these anti-ICE people think they can break into and not be deported right on back to the U.S.
Once again, it's the "soft bigotry of low expectations" that permeates this bunch. These "immigrants" couldn't possibly know any better!
Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:33 am to STEVED00
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Is countering an extreme with an extreme the right philosophy?
To echo Sally a bit, what you're classifying as "an extreme" philosophy on the right is only upholding the law. This is absolutely no different from prior administrations (and Congresses, especially Congresses) saying the only way to fix the illegal immigration issue was "immigration reform". Trump showed in his first term (and has doubled down on it in his second term) that the actual fix is to just uphold the fricking law.
What makes ICE's activities look "extreme" is that they are having to wade through paid agitators to do their job and the media feeds that narrative. Look at their work in other areas, other than California there hasn't been any "extreme" action by ICE because there hasn't been the physical mob resistance.
Don't buy into the "extreme" lie on this, it's bullshite.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:39 am to cadillacattack
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the blame needs to be placed squarely where it belongs… Congress.
Why?
The laws are in place, it's the administrations that are choosing whether or not to enforce them.
Biden didn't. Trump is.
I think we could pass legislation that has broader appeal, but I think the big issue is what to do with the 10's of millions of illegal aliens that are already here.
Do we:
1.) Give them amnesty with a path to citizenship (far leftist stance)?
2.) Do we deport them all (far right stance)?
3.) Something in between?
With this issue, as well as many others, we have people arguing at the extreme (positions 1 and 2) which will never get passed, and people doing this are happy with arguing the issue in perpetuity and don't really want a solution.
What if we ask illegal aliens to register for a work permit if they are in this country? If they do so within 1 year, they can stay as a permanent worker, as long as they don't commit a felony. No citizenship, but they are registered, pay taxes, and can work.
If they have a criminal record, they have to go. If they fail to register within a year, they get deported if they get caught. If they come into the country AFTER the law is passed, they get deported with no ability to ever come back legally.
It's a solution that the left HATES because they want these people to vote. It's a solution the right HATES because people who came in illegally are being allowed to stay.
The key is to make sure that the policies regard new illegals are crystal clear: They are to be evicted whenever they are found, regardless of whether they are caught as they are crossing over, or 20 years later.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:40 am to Strannix
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Can you point out what particulary is "extreme"? Federal law enforcement agents attempting to enforce federal laws while being targeted by state authorities and violent communist rioters is extreme?
I’ll say it’s being framed as extreme and it’s probably more extreme response than an administration has ever done but not by much (media framing it as extreme doesn’t help) but to my understanding it is still totally within legal authority. Imo it is not as extreme as what previous admin did. I also believe what previous administration did was unlawful (at a minimum doing nothing was unlawful).
This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 8:43 am
Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:43 am to STEVED00
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Let’s be honest, Biden administration did nothing to stop illegal immigration
That's not exactly a true statement. They encouraged it, they arranged for it, they paid for it, and they promoted it. That's a lot different than saying they just didn’t stop it.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:51 am to STEVED00
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Let’s be honest, Biden administration did nothing to stop illegal immigration
Did nothing to stop it? Baw, they heavily encouraged it. They were handing out unlimited data plan iPhones and food stamp cards at the border as soon as you crossed illegally.
I will never forget the footage of bulldozers in TX removing the razor wire from the border. It was such a punch to the nuts of every American; unbelievable.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 8:58 am to Jax-Tiger
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What if we ask illegal aliens to register for a work permit if they are in this country? If they do so within 1 year, they can stay as a permanent worker, as long as they don't commit a felony. No citizenship, but they are registered, pay taxes, and can work.
This would just be rewarding bad behavior. You are telling the democrats that if they flood the country with illegals, then you will get angry for a bit but ultimately give them the representative power they want.
Any policy that let's illegals stay here increases democrat power in congress. Any illegal allowed to stay here lowers wages and increases costs of citizens. Any illegal here reduces the resources that citizens whose families have contributed for generations can access.
There can be no compromise. Either remove them or lose your country and make life worse for yourself and your loved ones.
If the right really wants to consider feelings, then consider the feelings of the families who lost loved ones to illegals, not the illegals breaking the law, their lunatic leftist mob attacking the cops, or the corrupt democrat politicians promoting lawlessness.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 9:04 am to STEVED00
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Now they are at the point of removing all the people that the Biden administration just let in (or encouraged to come in).
Not even close, sadly. I've done the math.
In order to only deport the amount of illegals that entered during Biden's term, the Trump Administration would have to be deporting around 8,219 illegals per day, or 246,570 per month. They would have had to have hit that number for the past year, and maintain it for the next three. ...just to get back to where it was on the day Trump left office.
Now couple that with the estimated 20-50M illegals that were already present, and you see the net negative we're facing.
What we're essentially seeing on the national media and liberal politician narrative stage, is a bunch of progressive progs lighting their hair on fire with emotional ebullitions about "cruelty and decency" while they're still winning the game by 7 touchdowns. And the gaslighting is very effective.
This nation is toast.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 9:09 am to cadillacattack
Huh? It was literally Biden who caused this.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:52 am to STEVED00
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I’ll say it’s being framed as extreme
Correct
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it’s probably more extreme response than an administration has ever done but not by much
Except maybe when Lincoln ran a military dictatorship and killed hundreds of thousands of Southerners lol.
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