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Not sure how America First became promising to defend Ukraine for 15 years?

Posted on 12/29/25 at 10:40 am
Posted by Sassafrasology
Member since Nov 2025
1144 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 10:40 am




Grifters gonna grift. The fleecing of the U.S. tax payer continues even in peace.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63340 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 10:51 am to
But Rand calling it out is the real problem.
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
1881 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 10:56 am to
Now do Israel.

Posted by Sassafrasology
Member since Nov 2025
1144 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 10:57 am to
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But Rand calling it out is the real problem.


Zelensky is laughing at all of us. He is getting ready to escape with a triple platinum parachute probably to some beautiful Montenegro villa on the Adriatic Sea.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
101680 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 10:58 am to
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Aside from President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, Ukraine’s current Prime Minister, Denys Shmyhal, is also Jewish. This makes Ukraine the only countries in the world, other than Israel, to have both a Jewish Head of State and Head of Government simultaneously.
This post was edited on 12/29/25 at 11:09 am
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
1881 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:07 am to
Just a coincidence I’m sure.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41016 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:13 am to
Pointing it out is worse to many on this board than the fleecing of the American taxpayer and the loss of actual American sovereignty. This is how you know the control is firm and complete.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65596 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:15 am to
"Zelenskyy says"

Let's wait for the US to say.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116793 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:17 am to
At least Trump is making Europe pay a lot of money. And they're not swimming in cash these days.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71967 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:19 am to
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Now do Israel.

Hey, not fair! We balanced that out by giving future security protections to Gaza.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
16969 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:22 am to
Where’s JD?

Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6211 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Zelenskyy says

Yup hes been lying for years now.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10429 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:40 am to
So, a "security guarantee" talked about by only Zelensky with no details released.

Quick! Let's all rush to judgment and bitch about something that we know nothing about!

Waiting for more information before complaining is something only losers do.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5775 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:15 pm to
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So, a "security guarantee" talked about by only Zelensky with no details released.



Frick the details. There shouldn't be a guarantee at all.

I thought we were done doing crap like this.
This post was edited on 12/29/25 at 12:16 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84576 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:17 pm to
Because degrading Russia makes America stronger relatively speaking. Ask Bashar al Assad.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467272 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

So, a "security guarantee" talked about by only Zelensky with no details released.

Quick! Let's all rush to judgment and bitch about something that we know nothing about!


The irony of this comment within the historic anti-Ukraine narrative is chef's kiss

You know why Boris Johnson had to go and flex on the initial peace deal?

A security guarantee by the West that the West had no part in negotiating

Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9728 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:18 pm to
likelyhood of congress signing off on this treaty is zero
Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
1724 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Zelensky is laughing at all of us. He is getting ready to escape with a triple platinum parachute probably to some beautiful Montenegro villa on the Adriatic Sea.


I'd love to own a Montenegro.

Villa, that is.
Posted by SpecialK_88
Member since Dec 2025
95 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

So, a "security guarantee" talked about by only Zelensky with no details released.


The reality is the only way this war ends is with a security guarantee. Russias already proved that they will just rearm and attempt again in a few years time without that guarantee.

I’m not sure why everyone is so upset about a security guarantee. It only applies if Russia invades Ukraine, but I’ve been so assured by this forum that Putin is the good guy here.

Surely we’d never have to deal with the guarantee, riiiiigggghhhhttttt?
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21580 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:28 pm to
Lol.... lets wait and see how this unfolds. Haven't folks already learned that Trump and his circle are running circles around the Marxist and Globalist?
If not...... your lost.
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