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Shough vs. Rattler
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:04 pm
Honest question from someone who lives out of market and hasn’t been able to watch many games:
Shough and Rattler have nearly identical passing and rushing stats (if anything, Rattler is slightly better in both).
What is it that makes Shough a better option?
Shough and Rattler have nearly identical passing and rushing stats (if anything, Rattler is slightly better in both).
What is it that makes Shough a better option?
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:13 pm to VMO7
quote:Lie
Honest question
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:24 pm to VMO7
I am sorry, can't you read what is already here and posted??
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:30 pm to VMO7
Shough has a better command of the offense, is more consistent with his reads, and throws darts with the same velocity of Elway and Favre
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:31 pm to VMO7
quote:
What is it that makes Shough a better option?
Literally every aspect of his game
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:53 pm to VMO7
Shough has been better situationally. He also looks to have a stronger arm, a little bit more explosive running ability, and more decisive decision making. He also doesn't make as many negative or mind numbing plays when things get grimy or off schedule in/out of the pocket.
I don't understand how you baws can sit here and watch Drew Brees play ball for 12 years and still not understand what good and bad QB play looks like. Our fanbase should be much higher IQ than normal when it comes to QB's.
Box scores can be a guide, but they never tell the entire story.
I don't understand how you baws can sit here and watch Drew Brees play ball for 12 years and still not understand what good and bad QB play looks like. Our fanbase should be much higher IQ than normal when it comes to QB's.
Box scores can be a guide, but they never tell the entire story.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:22 pm to 3PieceSpicy
Shough has proven to be a leader and the future here to build around
Rattler is garbage!!!
There you go
Rattler is garbage!!!
There you go
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:29 pm to VMO7
I dunno maybe e read the 50 threads already posted.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:02 am to VMO7
More composure in the pocket. Rattler seemingly just got the ball knocked out of his hands so many times. He has fumbled 9 times. Thats horrendous.
Decision making. Shough seems to make quicker decisions and doesnt hold on the ball near as long.
About the only thing i like more about rattler is his ability to scramble and make something out of nothing during busted plays. But its not enough to make up for other deficiencies.
You'll have to watch the games. Stats dont do it much justice
Decision making. Shough seems to make quicker decisions and doesnt hold on the ball near as long.
About the only thing i like more about rattler is his ability to scramble and make something out of nothing during busted plays. But its not enough to make up for other deficiencies.
You'll have to watch the games. Stats dont do it much justice
This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 12:04 am
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:08 am to VMO7
Shough 3-3 vs Rattler 1-13.
Spencer Rattler’s last 5 games he completed 55% of his passes with a 75 passer rating. Shough’s last 5 games he completed 70% of his passes with a 94 passer rating.
Spencer Rattler’s last 5 games he completed 55% of his passes with a 75 passer rating. Shough’s last 5 games he completed 70% of his passes with a 94 passer rating.
This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 12:17 am
Posted on 12/17/25 at 3:56 am to VMO7
quote:
Shough and Rattler have nearly identical passing and rushing stats (if anything, Rattler is slightly better in both).
How are you looking at their stats and coming to this conclusion. Just going by career.
Shough has started 6 games and played in 8 and is 3-3 with 66.7% Cmp, 1484 Yds, 6 TDs, 5 Ints, 138 Rus, 2 Rus TDs.
Rattler has started 14 games and played in 16 and is 1-13 with 62.7% Cmp, 2903 Yds, 12 TDs, 10 Ints 313 Rus, 0 Rus TDs.
Shough is only getting better plus he is not scared to throw the ball down the field. If you watch the game you can clearly see Shough is the better QB.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:23 am to stelly1025
Shough just needs more time with the starters
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:59 am to VMO7
Just going off of stats alone doesn't paint the full picture.
If Rattler has a lot of his passing yards in 3rd and 25 situations but failed to convert the first down, then those yards are useless..
Shough clearly understands the game better and has a quicker motor. Also, Shough is doing this on an entire season less than Rattler. He's the better option and theirs really no argument
If Rattler has a lot of his passing yards in 3rd and 25 situations but failed to convert the first down, then those yards are useless..
Shough clearly understands the game better and has a quicker motor. Also, Shough is doing this on an entire season less than Rattler. He's the better option and theirs really no argument
Posted on 12/17/25 at 6:49 am to VMO7
People aren’t going to give an honest opinion because they hate Rattler.
Rattler was ok when he played to his strengths. More of the qb runs we see now should have been used with Rattler at qb. He has good film at times this year but we definitely look better now based on the eye test. In hindsight, our schedule was brutal in the early parts of the year during his starts and there isn’t much difference in the points scored department.
Shough opens up the middle of the field more with his arm strength and size. Rattler had issues with accuracy in this part of the field mainly because of his size. Shough speed in the run game and ability to make off platform throws have been a joy to watch.
Rattler was ok when he played to his strengths. More of the qb runs we see now should have been used with Rattler at qb. He has good film at times this year but we definitely look better now based on the eye test. In hindsight, our schedule was brutal in the early parts of the year during his starts and there isn’t much difference in the points scored department.
Shough opens up the middle of the field more with his arm strength and size. Rattler had issues with accuracy in this part of the field mainly because of his size. Shough speed in the run game and ability to make off platform throws have been a joy to watch.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 7:05 am to Sofaking2
quote:
Shough 3-3 vs Rattler 1-13.
Spencer Rattler’s last 5 games he completed 55% of his passes with a 75 passer rating. Shough’s last 5 games he completed 70% of his passes with a 94 passer rating.
To be accurate in this comparison figure in Rattler with 2 different HC's and 2 different OC's. Saying they both played from the same deck is simply not accurate.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 7:07 am to Bayou
What are you even arguing
Posted on 12/17/25 at 7:22 am to Bayou
quote:quote:To be accurate in this comparison figure in Rattler with 2 different HC's and 2 different OC's. Saying they both played from the same deck is simply not accurate.
Shough 3-3 vs Rattler 1-13.
Spencer Rattler’s last 5 games he completed 55% of his passes with a 75 passer rating. Shough’s last 5 games he completed 70% of his passes with a 94 passer rating.
Shough is a rookie playing in his first NFL games this season; Rattler played in 7 last season. The fact that they have very similar stats this season seems to me to be an indicator that Shough is a better QB.
That is not to disparage Rattler, but I would say that Shough probably has a higher ceiling. Apparently, the coaches seem to feel that way as well.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 7:30 am to VMO7
These statistics aren’t particularly close
Posted on 12/17/25 at 7:48 am to VMO7
quote:
Honest question
Why keep making thread after thread about this?
Posted on 12/17/25 at 7:49 am to Bayou
quote:
To be accurate in this comparison figure in Rattler with 2 different HC's and 2 different OC's. Saying they both played from the same deck is simply not accurate.
How does that matter if they were both learning a new offense in the same offseason? Should we consider that Shough has had 5 different coaches and coordinators in the last 6 years?
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