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Elon Musk just said in 15-20 years work will be "optional" (don't shoot the messenger)
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:13 am
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:13 am
Live on stage at the US Saudi Investment Forum.
Imagine how different your life would be if work was "optional" and how many people tie their identity to what they do for work.
Imagine how different your life would be if work was "optional" and how many people tie their identity to what they do for work.
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:14 am to sidewalkside
And we have him the keys to the government
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:15 am to sidewalkside
Right in my retirement window 
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:15 am to sidewalkside
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This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 10:19 am
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:16 am to sidewalkside
This is not a good thing. Work gives most of us meaning, and we are supposed to be providing services in our society.
We need a limit to AI and what we ALLOW it to do. Just because it can do something doesn't mean we have to let it.
We need a limit to AI and what we ALLOW it to do. Just because it can do something doesn't mean we have to let it.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:16 am to sidewalkside
quote:
work will be "optional"
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:18 am to sidewalkside
Of course its right after I retire.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:19 am to sidewalkside
[people tie their identity to what they do for work]
I can’t understand that way of thinking at all. My job is less than 1% of who I am and I wouldn’t have it any other way.
I can’t understand that way of thinking at all. My job is less than 1% of who I am and I wouldn’t have it any other way.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:19 am to sidewalkside
So did he say what type of socialist system he will be setting up?
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:19 am to sidewalkside
I already plan on work being optional for me in 20 years 
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:20 am to sidewalkside
Tesla still doesnt have level 4 autonomous driving and he said they would a decade ago.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:21 am to sidewalkside
That’ll be great. He’ll have more time for his kids
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:22 am to sidewalkside
Wish it was 15-20 months. Or weeks. Days?
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:22 am to sidewalkside
Work is already optional.
Take a look at my cousin. He's broke, don't do shite.
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 10:23 am
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:23 am to sidewalkside
He's not wrong, we are using AI in ways that I didn't think we would be. In 15-20 years I'll be looking to retire.
But I'm wondering how my kids will flourish and develop in this environment.
But I'm wondering how my kids will flourish and develop in this environment.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:23 am to sidewalkside
Rampant alcoholism and drug abuse as a consequence.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:24 am to schwartzy
quote:
This is not a good thing. Work gives most of us meaning
Do most people really feel this way?
Family gives me purpose, friends give me purpose, work is a means to make money for me. Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:24 am to sidewalkside
with no purpose, society will collapse.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:25 am to sidewalkside
So exactly where will this be coming from?
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:25 am to sidewalkside
That doesn’t make any sense. How will it be optional if AI can do everything?
Either AI won’t be able to do everything, in which case work won’t be optional, at least for those jobs AI can’t replace.
Or AI will be able to do everything, in which case no one will work, we’ll all be allocated a government decided stipend, and the proverbial ladder will be forever pulled up. You better hope that you or your parents have made a decent nest egg by then. Therefore there will be no option to work because who would hire a human?
I suppose what he’s saying is you can take up some sort of hobby, like carpentry or painting, and hope people pay for your product instead of AI’s product.
Of course Elon also said we would be on Mars by 2035 and he would build a network of super trains underground like 5 years ago. Elon says a lot of shite and some of it comes true
Either AI won’t be able to do everything, in which case work won’t be optional, at least for those jobs AI can’t replace.
Or AI will be able to do everything, in which case no one will work, we’ll all be allocated a government decided stipend, and the proverbial ladder will be forever pulled up. You better hope that you or your parents have made a decent nest egg by then. Therefore there will be no option to work because who would hire a human?
I suppose what he’s saying is you can take up some sort of hobby, like carpentry or painting, and hope people pay for your product instead of AI’s product.
Of course Elon also said we would be on Mars by 2035 and he would build a network of super trains underground like 5 years ago. Elon says a lot of shite and some of it comes true
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 10:27 am
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