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The recruiting calendar makes good coaches hostages at their current school...
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:00 am
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:00 am
It used to be that the postseason ended on Jan 1 and the only signing day for high school athletes was the first Wednesday of February...and there was no transfer portal.
Now, early signing day has moved to the first week of December, the first round of playoffs starts in mid-December, the transfer portal window opens the first part of January, and the championship is Jan 19...any coach good enough to get their team to the playoffs but wants to leave for another school is stuck or will force an uncomfortable choice upon himself or his school.
This isn't just an issue for Lane Kiffin...it could be an issue for Eric Morris or John Sumrall...and any assistant of a playoff team looking for the big promotion.
Crazy times we are in...
Now, early signing day has moved to the first week of December, the first round of playoffs starts in mid-December, the transfer portal window opens the first part of January, and the championship is Jan 19...any coach good enough to get their team to the playoffs but wants to leave for another school is stuck or will force an uncomfortable choice upon himself or his school.
This isn't just an issue for Lane Kiffin...it could be an issue for Eric Morris or John Sumrall...and any assistant of a playoff team looking for the big promotion.
Crazy times we are in...
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 10:25 am
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:03 am to Chicken
So true. People who can affect change need to discuss these things in good faith at some point soon, but I’m afraid the almighty $ + Disney are the decision-makers here.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:03 am to Chicken
Yep. The NCAA 100% created this issue.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:03 am to Chicken
Maybe this giant clusterF will lead to some changes by NCAA.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:04 am to Chicken
Its ridiculous Chicken.
Absolutely ridiculous.
At this point they can go ahead and leave the portal open all year and players can change teams from week to week...
Absolutely ridiculous.
At this point they can go ahead and leave the portal open all year and players can change teams from week to week...
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:04 am to Chicken
It’s easier for schools and fans to paint the narrative now that a coach is a douche bag lol. So if you didn’t like Lane before, this gives you something to say. But things are different now.
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 10:06 am
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:05 am to Chicken
It seems like they could move NSD back to Feb. pretty easily.
If someone wants to early enroll, there's nothing there to stop them, they just have to sign their documents in Feb. on NSD like everyone else. It takes the suspense away from the table and removes the hats, but who the hell cares. We shouldn't be having the shitshow we do right now with coaching transitions for the sake of some 17 or 18 year-old's feelings. If they want to do the hat thing....do it for their commitment. Then early enroll.
Just seems like an easy fix to me unless I'm missing something.
If someone wants to early enroll, there's nothing there to stop them, they just have to sign their documents in Feb. on NSD like everyone else. It takes the suspense away from the table and removes the hats, but who the hell cares. We shouldn't be having the shitshow we do right now with coaching transitions for the sake of some 17 or 18 year-old's feelings. If they want to do the hat thing....do it for their commitment. Then early enroll.
Just seems like an easy fix to me unless I'm missing something.
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 10:06 am
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:09 am to Chicken
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This isn't just an issue for Lane Kiffin...it could be an issue for Eric Morris or John Sumrall.
I'd be good with any of those 3. Preferably Kiffin obviously.
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 10:12 am
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:11 am to Chicken
Early signing day should be the monday after the first round. If you do that then there’s only 8 teams where this is a problem. Maybe those 8 coaches should be held hostage. If you steal one of those then maybe you should be at a disadvantage
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:12 am to GeauxldMember
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Yep. The NCAA 100% created this issue.
LSU is part of the NCAA. The members vote on the policy. Blame the Presidents of schools that make up the board. NCAA staff suggests, members decide.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:16 am to Chicken
It's why having a GM is of utmost importance.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:18 am to Chicken
When it comes to calendaring National Signing Day, Playoffs and National Championship, and the transfer portal window, I don't think that significant consideration should be given to how difficult it makes if for coaches to change schools.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:19 am to Geauxldilocks
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LSU is part of the NCAA. The members vote on the policy. Blame the Presidents of schools that make up the board. NCAA staff suggests, members decide.
Kelly was on record multiple times about his issues with the current, compressed calendar, so my assumption is that LSU was not in favor of the calendar. And by your logic, I had a vote in the 2020 election, so I guess Biden’s policies are kind of on me.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:21 am to Chicken
Something has to give...
The NIL needs to be evaluated as well. College football will become less enjoyable if they don't.
The NIL needs to be evaluated as well. College football will become less enjoyable if they don't.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:24 am to Salviati
quote:disagree...maybe you don't care how a veteran coach like Kiffin is affected, but this is definitely an issue for someone like Morris or Sumrall...and any assistant of a playoff team looking for the big promotion.
I don't think that significant consideration should be given to how difficult it makes if for coaches to change schools.
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 10:26 am
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:38 am to GeauxldMember
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Yep. The NCAA 100% created this issue.
I don't necessarily think that is true. The NCAA didn't arbitrarily create the ESD or the current transfer portal dates. They did so at the urging of the coaches. The coaches wanted an ESD because (a) it allowed for more HS graduates to enroll early and (b) the coaches didn't have to fight longer to keep their early commits...committed.
Also, the coaches didn't like the spring portal window because it gave their players an opportunity to bail late, leaving limited options to replace the player(s). However, the coaches also want to have their rosters set for winter workouts and spring practice. In order to participate in those events the players have to be enrolled at their new schools. If guys are transferring schools later than early February there is a chance they can't be enrolled for the spring semester.
The other option would be to open the portal in December, like we just had. But that expedites the time frame to hire a new HC even more.
Yes, the timing is difficult for the CFP teams. But that's only 12 of ~130 teams. I'm sure the compromise in setting the dates was to address the needs/wants of 90% of teams as opposed to favoring the top 10% of teams.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:41 am to Chicken
Yup, doesn't seem like there is any real opportunity for them to leave amicably. Gotta either piss an entire fanbase off or pass on opportunities
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:43 am to Chicken
I had a similar observation a couple days ago.
quote:
If you're an FBS college football coach, the yearly schedule does you no favors.
There's no way to consider other jobs if you're having a good year (playoff contention) because of the timeline of early signing day, CFP schedule, portal window, etc.
If you're an up and coming coach, or one looking to make a final big leap, you have to choose:(1) miss a big job opportunity that you've been waiting for and may never come again, or (2) make the move and set aside a great season.
This is why we'll see a coach occasionally do the unthinkable and leave before the CFP. We've already seen it.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:50 am to Chicken
quote:Sure. I hear you. It causes problems for all coaches, particularly ones with bowl games and playoff aspirations. And I don't recall what great reason, if any, was offered for allowing high school students to commit in December rather than keeping everything in February.
disagree...maybe you don't care how a veteran coach like Kiffin is affected, but this is definitely an issue for someone like Morris or Sumrall...and any assistant of a playoff team looking for the big promotion.
But First, Playoffs, the National Championship, and the transfer portal window also affect the schedules of the players. There are thousands of students impacted by those dates compared to the dozen(s) of coaches.
Second, the coaches have far greater resources and financial capacity to make the schedules work for them.
Third, I don't think anyone can be sure that the employers of Kiffin, Morris, and Sumrall are not wholly unwilling to allow them to coach through the end of post-season. Ultimatums have been rumored but not proven.
In any event, each coach can make the business decision to stay or leave their current employer considering the circumstances. And all of the downsides of leaving early are presumably offset by a significant increase in compensation, else why would they leave. It's hard for me to muster much sympathy for coaches making million(s) who leave their job to make more millions.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 11:03 am to Chicken
The Feb Signing Day should be the only signing day. Then the transfer portal should start AFTER all spring games have concluded. THEN that portal ends 3 weeks after either the quarter system or semester system ends (whichever is later when the portal started).
This January portal is ridiculous
This January portal is ridiculous
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