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All the Sumrall simping reminds me of when everyone wanted Napier
Posted on 10/27/25 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 10/27/25 at 3:54 pm
Fritz was 23-5 at Tulane his last 2 seasons before Sumrall took his place, and Sumrall went 9-5 in his first season. Sumrall had a great 2 seasons at Troy. Neal Brown also had a few amazing seasons at Troy. Billy Napier had 3 amazing seasons at ULL, and both of those guys sucked in their first P4 HC jobs.
Sumrall may end up being the best coach of all time, who the frick knows, but I don’t know why people are so high on the guy. Why, because he’s 6-1 at a Louisiana school? I don’t get it.
Sumrall may end up being the best coach of all time, who the frick knows, but I don’t know why people are so high on the guy. Why, because he’s 6-1 at a Louisiana school? I don’t get it.
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 3:57 pm to TN Tygah
Im not convinced Napier is a bad coach. Just put in the wrong situation.
I think he will get another job and succeed
I think he will get another job and succeed
Posted on 10/27/25 at 3:59 pm to TN Tygah
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when everyone wanted Napier
Where was this?
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:00 pm to TN Tygah
Yup. Idk why people want to go with a risk with this important of a hire
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:01 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Just put in the wrong situation.
A top 10 job in the country with the #1 QB recruit in the country? What situation woulda made sunbelt Billy successful
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:01 pm to jmon
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Where was this?
Correct. Only a select few mouth breathers wanted this
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:01 pm to jmon
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Where was this?
Quite a few people on tRant wanted him, and he even had some local media personalities pushing for him.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:02 pm to TN Tygah
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Why, because he’s 6-1 at a Louisiana school? I don’t get it.
He also did a great job at turning things around at Troy. People arent saying he should be the front-runner, but he's not a bad hire either at the end of the day. Same goes for Golesh from USF.
I don't think we have to get someone with P4 experience for the hire to work out. Coaching hires are a crapshoot anyway.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:03 pm to TN Tygah
Stop comparing Sumrall to Napier. For the umpteenth time, he didn't jump directly from the Sun Belt to a P4 program like Napier or Brown attempted to do.
You're also conveniently ignoring that Sumrall took over from Chip Lindsey, who was garbage at Troy.
You're also conveniently ignoring that Sumrall took over from Chip Lindsey, who was garbage at Troy.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:04 pm to BLyonsTiger
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People arent saying he should be the front-runner
I have definitely seen a fair number saying this today
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:05 pm to TN Tygah
Considering anyone reasonably attainable is a big risk, it isn't that big a risk relatively to those guys.
Kirby Smart isn't walking through that door.
Kirby Smart isn't walking through that door.
This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:05 pm to FireGoodell
lol every hire a risk. It’s such a fallacy to say that everyone hired from a smaller school will go the way of Napier. There are examples of coaches with every resume and every type of experience failing. So what type of hiring isn’t a risk?
We just fired the “safest” hire it’s possible to make after 3.5 years, and the “riskiest” hire we could make in Ed O at least gave us one incredible season.
Summerall could just as easily be Urban Meyer at Bowling Green or, more realistically, Heupel at UCF, right now as it is that he’s Billy Napier.
We just fired the “safest” hire it’s possible to make after 3.5 years, and the “riskiest” hire we could make in Ed O at least gave us one incredible season.
Summerall could just as easily be Urban Meyer at Bowling Green or, more realistically, Heupel at UCF, right now as it is that he’s Billy Napier.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:07 pm to FireGoodell
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Yup. Idk why people want to go with a risk with this important of a hire
Brian Kelly was a "low risk" option in 2022 - Napier was the high risk guy - both got fired in 2025 within weeks of each other - not saying Kelly wasnt more successful than Napier but both ended badly - I don't think there is a "low risk" option unless you want to pay Saban, Kirby, or Lanning 20 Million a year.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:09 pm to FireGoodell
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Yup. Idk why people want to go with a risk with this important of a hire
Because literally all of the best coaches in CFB right now were hired as “risks” and not as retread ‘successful’ P4 coaches?
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:11 pm to nvasil1
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You're also conveniently ignoring that Sumrall took over from Chip Lindsey, who was garbage at Troy.
And then he took over Fritz's Tulane teams that had gone 12-2 and 11-3 the two years before he got there. And then went 9-5.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:12 pm to TN Tygah
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All the Sumrall simping reminds me of when everyone wanted Napier
Yup. Thank god we hired Brian Kelly in 2022 instead of Napier. What a world of difference these last 3.5 years would have been for LSU.
Sumrall is young, cheap and might be good. LSU’s next coach will be young, cheap and might be good.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:14 pm to TN Tygah
Such a ridiculous comparison. For one Napier only had head coaching experience at lousiana before the Florida job. Sumrall turned around a horrid dumpster fire in Troy an immediately. Won 10 plus games back to back years before going go Tulane. We’ve seen Sumrall have success at two different stops along with success as a DC at Kentucky. Napier’s background wasn’t as proven as Sumrall
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:14 pm to FireGoodell
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Yup. Idk why people want to go with a risk with this important of a hire
That's what was said about the safe hire Brian Kelly.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:14 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Im not convinced Napier is a bad coach. Just put in the wrong situation.
I agree with this. I think that UF situation was a worse shitshow than LSU when he took it over and the schedule was absolutely brutal with FSU on two high years in 21 and 22 and then Miami as a playoff team in 23 and 24 coupled with a tough as hell SEC slate. No coach was surviving that.
Of Napier's 45 games coached, 22 were against ranked opponents. That's crazy that half your games while you are rebuilding are against ranked teams. Even crazier was 8 of those 22 were top 5 at the time of the game. That means Florida was playing 6 ranked teams a year and 2 of those were top 5 teams every year.
This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:16 pm to Schmelly
quote:He was successful at ULL. He will be successful somewhere else.
A top 10 job in the country with the #1 QB recruit in the country? What situation woulda made sunbelt Billy successful
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