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I’m really confused as to why Brian Kelly didn’t work out at LSU

Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:14 am
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
77775 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:14 am
When we hired Kelly, I pretty much had the same idea that a lot of folks did. Kelly had tough, solid-to-really good teams at Notre Dame but never had enough skill talent to overcome Alabama, Clemson, UGA, whoever. And that issue was mostly a Notre Dame issue, which I think is still largely true. Insert LSU, where skill talent grows on trees…this will work.

Instead, we have a soft team. We have a dumb team. We have a team with no identity. I didn’t see this at Cincinnati and Notre Dame. If you told me, Kelly won’t win at LSU because he simply will not recruit the caliber of athlete needed, ok I’d buy that. But that’s not the issues and that’s what’s so confusing.

So what happened? I think 2 things- slow to adapt to NIL and the first defensive staff. The NIL part is less Kelly specific and more of an LSU issue. I don’t think we realized it was straight up pay for play until really last offseason. Too late. And the first defensive staff was just a disaster and truly set the program back at least 2 seasons.
Posted by TigerReb7
Oxford
Member since Sep 2020
528 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:16 am to
quote:

Kelly had tough, solid-to-really good teams at Notre Dame
Overrated teams
Posted by GeauxPanthers2
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Dec 2024
881 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:17 am to
I think the leadership skills required to lead a program have changed in the NIL era.

Kelly was a good leader in the past, but I don’t think he is now. And that includes everything… culture within the program, his relations with the media and fan base, roster management, etc.
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
3442 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:17 am to
I'm confused why LSU fans went from "ND is an average team who plays an easy schedule year after year" to "Brian Kelly is great! Look at what he did at ND!" once he became our coach.

His nickname was sarcastically Big Game Brian for a reason. But instead of only having 1 or 2 of those games a year, he has to face them nearly every week in the SEC. We saw that in week 1 of year 1.
Posted by PlacerCoTiger
Placer County, CA
Member since Nov 2015
393 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:18 am to

I’m not being a jerk, but it’s pretty simple. He’s not as good at coach as he was touted to be and coaching in the SEC is not the same as independent Notre Dame.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
128519 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:18 am to
Kelly played a soft schedule and got out coached and out classed when he played an SEC team

USC and Michigan were arse when he was HC at ND and those were the only good teams on regular schedule
Posted by bayouboo
Member since Jan 2007
3342 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:20 am to
And the fire isn’t there. He wants to CEO the position.
Posted by TheosDeddy
Member since May 2024
1053 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:20 am to
quote:

think the leadership skills required to lead a program have changed in the NIL era.

Kelly was a good leader in the past, but I don’t think he is now. And that includes everything… culture within the program, his relations with the media and fan base, roster management, etc.


Exactly, its why saban retired

You have to be a semi pro type coach and coerce the players to play hard

You can't mandate it anymore
Posted by Demonbengal
Ruston
Member since May 2015
4542 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:21 am to
He had a great run of hiring stud DC’s. A couple of guys named Clark Lea and Mike Elko.
Posted by jafari rastaman
Member since Nov 2015
2469 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:21 am to
Everybody thought it was refreshing to finally have an adult in the room.
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
4511 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:21 am to
ND has always been soft….so there you go
Posted by Dead Mike
Cell Block 4
Member since Mar 2010
3921 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:22 am to
Completely agree. The last three LSU coaches won national titles, and two of those were buffoons, so surely a proven winner at every previous stop can make a serious run for it too?

But no, it’s the all-in year 4 and it’s over before November. And if you had told me that he would cycle through bad assistant hires, and consistently field teams that are obviously incompetent in 2-3 phases of the game, I would not have believed it.

If you had told me that the one bright spot was a superstar QB that eventually won the Heisman, I also would not have believed that.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
19474 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:22 am to
I am confused too. I thought we were getting a Saban-like coach who would establish a tough and organized culture and process. He was a perennial playoff coach who could not quite get the horses to compete with the Alabamas and Ohio States of the world at ND but would do that at LSU.

This whole thing is frustrating and confusing as hell.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8652 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:23 am to
I don’t think many people on here fully grasped how much of a talent and general program advantage Kelly had at Notre dame over 8 of the 12 teams in their schedule every year.

Navy/army/byu/stanford/Boston college/Pittsburgh/purdue/wake forest almost every year. USC and Michigan were having some of their worst stretches during his ND tenure.


True ND didn’t have a ton of talent relative to LSU/Bama/Ohio state, but they had way more talent than most teams they played. The result of that is Kelly spent 15 years coaching at a place where he didn’t really focus on X and O’s, offensive and defensive schemes, figuring out the small margins where he could have an advantage. All he had to do was generally keep the program chugging along and he’d win 9 games.

Now in the SEC, and this is more true than ever in the NIL era, our talent advantage in conference games is marginal at best, if it is there at all. And Kelly has no idea how to prepare a team to win games without a clear talent advantage.

Whoever we replace him absolutely has to be someone with clear schematic competency and involvement on one side of the ball, and really should be someone who has shown they can win at a place with similar or less resources than their opponents

Posted by Traceg03
LA
Member since Jun 2018
1612 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:23 am to
Well for 1. putting ur faith in a hurt qb who doesn't have his normal velocity and cannot evade tackles paired with a bad OL is not going to have success. The only way to play around a bad OL in this league is if you have an elusive qb who can make guys miss. Nuss cannot do that.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26062 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:24 am to
Well, he beat Bama and was closer the first two years because he was smart and went out and got a true dual threat QB. The last two years he relied on Nuss and Sloan who simply aren't good enough. Sloan was a lazy hire. Nuss had some good moments, but you can't just sit back there like he does in today's game and expect to win anything of significance.

That and BK's decision-making with hires and just game management stuff has gotten worse since earlier in his career. He's just not up to the standard to win SEC championships, etc.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287641 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:24 am to
The two most important roles in football are :

1. Your play caller
2. Your QB


Both have been colossal failures.



On top of that, the Pop-a-Mole assistant coach juggling has been a huge issue, which has not allowed any consistency. We thought he had a grasp on it, but keeping Sloan was a huge misstep after correcting several other positions.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
45547 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:24 am to
He's also been known for having solid offensive lines and putting offensive linemen in the NFL draft (as we saw last year), along with tight ends. However, we're now in year 4 and the offensive line is, by far, the worst unit on the team. That's another thing that if you had told me when we hired him that in year 4, the OLine would be the worst unit, I would not have believed you.
This post was edited on 10/26/25 at 11:26 am
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33075 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:25 am to
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And the first defensive staff was just a disaster and truly set the program back at least 2 seasons.


Stop repeating this stupid shite. He had 18 mil to spend this yr.

You can pretty much flip a team for a yr with 18 mil. It all starts with kelly and his arrogance. He puts everything on his coaches during the week and during games and then sits back and yells when it doesn't work.

He is proactive at his age anymore. That's what happened. Him replacing denbrock with Sloan hurt because denbrock was actually a vet oc and knew what he was looking for.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9000 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:25 am to
Yeah.

Being honest, I wasn’t sure about him when he was hired but after year 1, taking a team that only had 39 scholarships players when took over to the SECCG, I really thought we were about to own the SEC.

But god damn it’s been a disaster ever since. Jayden Daniels has been the only thing worth watching.
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