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The Amazon Is Doing Exactly the Opposite of What Climate Scientists Predicted For Decades

Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:07 pm
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
65210 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:07 pm
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For decades, scientists feared the Amazon rainforest was teetering on the edge — increasingly stressed by rising temperatures, prolonged droughts and deforestation. But a landmark study published in Nature Plants this month offers a surprising counterpoint: trees across the Amazon have been steadily growing larger, defying predictions of widespread decline.

Researchers from more than 60 universities — including the University of Cambridge, Universidade do Mato Grosso and University of Leeds — tracked nearly 200 forest plots over a 40-year period, starting in 1971. Their findings show that the average size of Amazonian trees has increased by 3.2% every decade, across all tree classes. From saplings in the understory to towering canopy elders, the forest appears to be thriving — at least for now.

“We expected to see signs of stress or stagnation,” said Professor Tim Baker, a senior author on the project from the University of Leeds. “Instead, we saw consistent growth, even in the largest trees. It was unexpected.”

The study links this growth spurt to the rising concentration of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere — a greenhouse gas long blamed for driving global warming. Trees absorb CO2 through photosynthesis, turning it into biomass. With more CO2 available, the Amazon seems to be undergoing a kind of natural fertilisation effect, fuelling its expansion.

This CO2 fertilisation effect isn’t new to plant scientists, but what makes this study remarkable is the uniformity of the response. Initial models had predicted an uneven distribution of benefits, where only the tallest, sun-drenched trees would thrive, pushing smaller ones out. That didn’t happen

“We actually found the opposite,” said Dr Adriane Esquivel-Muelbert, who co-led the study while at the University of Birmingham. “Trees of all sizes are growing faster. The forest appears to be sharing the benefits of CO2 enrichment across the board.”.

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Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14988 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:09 pm to
Almost like it was designed as a control system...
Posted by rob0710
LA
Member since Oct 2004
890 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:11 pm to
Must be nice to get paid what scientists get paid to always be wrong. Almost like government is paying their way to push propaganda.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
31133 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:11 pm to
Imagine that.
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
20136 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:12 pm to
So you're saying a tropical rain forest likes warmer temperatures and more CO2?
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
19749 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:12 pm to
This is what Rush used to call “a random act of journalism.”
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
111830 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:14 pm to
Plants like CO2?

What is this? fricking 5th grade science?
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:14 pm to
Deforestation is the main issue facing the Amazon.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65672 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:15 pm to
“Climate Scientists”


AKA snake oil salesman
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
17497 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:17 pm to
I’m in the keys right now, being coming off and on for 12 years or so, all the places on the water, are still on the water. There has been no rising sea level. It’s all bullshite.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51488 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:19 pm to
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Almost like it was designed as a control system...

Bingo! The earth has been around a long time. Temperature, and other atmospheric metrics, have swung wildly during that time, but they always converge on the norm, indicating an inherently stable system. Global warming hysterics posit an inherently unstable system. That is belied by experience.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116588 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:24 pm to
There is a good (and long) interview on Triggernometry with a British woman expaining the failure of the UK power system since they went green. They can't use coal or oil because we need to save the planet. Solar and Wind don't work. But they can use bio-mass. So, they are cooking trees. But they don't have any to spare so they are importing U.S. lumber in order to provide electricity to their homes.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
12030 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:25 pm to
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Plants like CO2? What is this? fricking 5th grade science?


My son is 16... his fourth grade science taught climate change right along side the plant cycle- even his 9yr old self noticed that, together, it didn't make sense.

They also taught him about some "dying" coral reef that was outdated, by the time he had the lesson, the reef was doing fine.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
8514 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:25 pm to
These politicized “climate” specialists have done for science what politicized MSM media has done for journalism.



Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
16872 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:27 pm to
Oddly enough it turns out co2 and warmer weather make for a great growth environment. Who knew ?
Posted by how333
Member since Dec 2020
3811 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:29 pm to
"Man made" global warming is one of the biggest hoaxes in history. Yet, the media pushes it to make us feel like "bad" Americans.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
12690 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:29 pm to
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“We expected to see signs of stress or stagnation,” said Professor Tim Baker, a senior author on the project from the University of Leeds. “Instead, we saw consistent growth, even in the largest trees. It was unexpected.”


Are these scientists retarded?
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
16620 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:31 pm to
Last I heard trees love CO2. Carbon fertilization is a thing among trees, man.

This post was edited on 9/30/25 at 1:38 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
90786 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:32 pm to
"why the amazon expanding is a bad thing for the earth"

- pivot scientists
Posted by LazloHollyfeld
Steam Tunnel at UNC-G
Member since Apr 2009
2022 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:32 pm to
Yet we “must” spend billions of dollars to shove CO2 underground rather than planting and properly maintaining forest.

Also, while we’re at it, let’s go ahead and chop down forest to put up solar farms to get more clean energy.
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