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Was how Vader died lame or was he really that vulnerable?

Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:46 pm
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:46 pm
Anakin/Vader, regardless if half machine half man was an absolute beast. Luke takes 10x the amount of lightning from the Emperor and gets right up once he sees Vader pick up the Emperor.

Vader picks him up and catches secondary lightning for maybe 5 seconds, coupled with a robot hand being chopped off that wasn’t connected to his vitals anyways, and he dies.

Was that a lame death or was Vader just ready to die?

Seems his death was actually lame, I’ve always thought that.
Posted by Espritdescorps
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:48 pm to
I always assumed it fried his life support tech that was helping keep him alive?
Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2013
8934 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:49 pm to
Vader's suit kept him alive and the lightning ruined his suit's electronics is my guess.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:50 pm to
Always took as a ton of voltage going through his body. Hadn’t really thought about if anyone has taken that amount of juice directly since Vader. Yoda and Mace recoiled even deflecting it with light sabers so it had to be powerful.
Posted by Locoguan0
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2017
7089 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:52 pm to
The suit was Palp's insurance against his apprentice. He knew that he would need a trump card against the chosen one.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
75911 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:59 pm to
The canon reason is the suit was basically a super conductor by design. It was one way Palpatine kept Vader in check
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
7339 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:07 pm to
Palpatine was playing with Luke. He probably really let Vader have it when he realized what was going on.
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:16 pm to
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The canon reason is the suit was basically a super conductor by design. It was one way Palpatine kept Vader in check


Well not being a deep reader on the lore I guess I have my answer

fricking Palps, always thinking ahead when he put Vader in that suit
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
15909 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:34 pm to
I love the OT so much, I suspend reason/logic when inconsistencies pop up like this (and when the prequels & sequels' lore doesn't line up with the OT lore).

One related mystery I overlook is "Why does an external burn victim with no internal lung damage (who can loudly scream 'I hate you!') need permanent life/respiratory support?"

In Rogue One and the Kenobi series, Vader had a bacta tank to slowly smooth out the severe external skin scarring suffered in Revenge of the Sith, (much like sarlacc-gastric-acid-scarred Boba Fett slowly did in his series). And furthermore, Vader is helmetless/ventilator-less in his chambers during the Empire Strikes Back, but in Return of the Jedi, dies without the helmet when Luke reluctantly took it off.

Ultimately, I don't care. I love the OT.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:45 pm to
quote:

I always assumed it fried his life support tech that was helping keep him alive?


Yeah I thought it was kinda implied with the whole mechanical breathing sound. Suit is fried and it was keeping him alive
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:52 pm to
The only thing that makes it lame is that somehow Palpatine survived that shite
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 9/20/25 at 5:56 am to
quote:

lightning from the Emperor
but you don't question this part?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 9/20/25 at 6:43 am to
The lamest death is reserved for Han.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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Posted on 9/20/25 at 6:43 am to
quote:

I always assumed it fried his life support tech that was helping keep him alive?


I assume that's the canon explanation, as well. "He's more machine now than man."

Switch off the machine, switch off Vader, effectively.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
39239 posts
Posted on 9/20/25 at 7:41 am to
What Vader didn't know was that the emperor had the same people who designed the McDonald's ice cream machine design his suit. Dude never had a chance.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9970 posts
Posted on 9/20/25 at 7:58 am to
quote:

The only thing that makes it lame is that somehow Palpatine survived that shite


Not in my world. Star Wars is only the OT and nothing else.

I've even given up the prequels due to how bad the sequels were.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73255 posts
Posted on 9/20/25 at 8:41 am to
I always assumed the electricty took out his life support. The machines that kept him alive failed.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67598 posts
Posted on 9/20/25 at 8:54 am to
Interesting. But I never spent a lot of time on technological analysis of the event…
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
12831 posts
Posted on 9/20/25 at 8:56 am to
The entire series is full of giant plot holes that must constantly be filled by the fans. There are some great moments but also some pretty sloppy/lazy writing.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17641 posts
Posted on 9/20/25 at 9:07 am to
Palpatine was toying with Luke. He knew how much he could hit him with and not kill him. When Vader grabbed him, that was full on dark side lightning he was putting on him to try to stop him.

Or at least that makes sense to me. Who knows?
This post was edited on 9/20/25 at 9:08 am
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