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Subprime Crisis 2.0? Alleged Fraud Triggers Billion-Dollar Auto-Lender Bankruptcy

Posted on 9/18/25 at 3:21 pm
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 3:21 pm
"As Bloomberg reports, the details behind the collapse of Tricolor remain uncertain, with federal investigators looking into possible fraud and banks exploring whether the same collateral was pledged to multiple lenders.

In Dallas, the regional bank Triumph Financial Inc. has dispatched teams of employees to used-car lots, where they’re identifying and whisking away to safe locations the vehicles they believe are the collateral to their loans.

In midtown Manhattan, a boutique investment firm that built a position in Tricolor’s asset-backed bonds, Clear Haven Capital Management, has been calling other bondholders, urging them to band together and fight to keep the big banks away from the assets that belong to them.

Those banks, including JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Fifth Third Bancorp, have begun to forensically examine their own collateral to try to ascertain the magnitude of the losses.

This is part of what’s fueling the frantic rush - the sense that many of the details behind the collapse of Tricolor, a provider of high-interest car loans to undocumented workers, remain murky even a week after its bankruptcy filing."


Posted by W2NOMO
Member since Jul 2025
1554 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 3:24 pm to
Sub prime for cars? Lol
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13273 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 3:27 pm to
They cater to Latinos. There's usually the flags of every Central American country on their lots that I drive by occasionally.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9069 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 3:28 pm to
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a provider of high-interest car loans to undocumented workers


And they thought this was a good idea?
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
7051 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 3:28 pm to
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a provider of high-interest car loans to undocumented workers, remain murky even a week after its bankruptcy filing."


Seems like a risky business. Maybe stop giving overpriced car loans to people who can't afford them.

They are not too big to fail, they seem too dumb to succeed
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17501 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 3:29 pm to
Alright alright. The canary is chirping.
Posted by mikesliveisacheater
Member since Nov 2009
1336 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 3:31 pm to
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a provider of high-interest car loans to undocumented workers, remain murky even a week after its bankruptcy filing."


Sounds like a risky business model. Probably shouldn't loan money to people that are here illegally and don't have a documented source of income.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13273 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 3:31 pm to
They just charge interest rates that would make a fresh private at Fort Benning blush.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38370 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 3:33 pm to
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Subprime Crisis 2.0?
nah
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14006 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 3:34 pm to
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high-interest car loans to undocumented workers,



I still remember when people lost businesses over even thinking about employing an undocumented worker.



We had half-way built an entire economy around a permanent caste system…
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
23719 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 3:46 pm to
Most of their buyers were probably deported. Hard to make car payments in Pesos from Mexico.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13273 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 3:47 pm to
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permanent caste system

All that's required to break out of it is learn to speak English. We "forced" our live in nanny (legal) to learn English while she was with us, and she's clearing six figures under 30 years old by managing a bunch of espanol only painters working in whitey's houses.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125246 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 3:48 pm to
lol.
What a business model.
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
3158 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 3:59 pm to
Many of those used cars are collateralized several times. Jose buys it makes a couple of payments and it gets repossessed. Then Juan buys it and repeats. The first loan never got paid off. So now there a $12k 2008 Yukon collateralizing $26k in outstanding loans. Who thought that would ever work with illegals?
Posted by MC5601
Tyler, Texas
Member since Jan 2010
4205 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 4:15 pm to
Very interesting. I know the CEO and principal of Triumph here in Dallas
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
10863 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 4:39 pm to
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a provider of high-interest car loans to undocumented workers


And they thought this was a good idea?

They're getting what they fricking deserve, I say.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17501 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:05 pm to
I wonder who is buying his paper?
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
2125 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:09 pm to
Is the canary chirping, or dead?
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19396 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:11 pm to
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They cater to Latinos. There's usually the flags of every Central American country on their lots that I drive by occasionally.

That definitely hurts when you are giving massive amounts of loans to illegal immigrants, but committing financial fraud doesn’t help either.
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
10849 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:12 pm to
"he wasn't supposed to win", then he "wasn't supposed to survive", then before all that, "it was her turn". All corporate America had turned the corner getting ready for the new economy that would crush middle America and lift up the illegals replacing Americans. They hit a speed bump in the road.
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