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Why doesnt America invest in Americans?
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:09 am
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:09 am
Its crazy for the wealthiest country in the world to be so unwilling to invest in our future because "socialism".
Look at the economics of poland. It's not shocking why their economy is crushing the rest of the world rn. They have free education, free Healthcare, high minimum wage $8.50 USD and cost of living is 32% lower than the US. Also rent is 55% cheaper.
Their biggest exports are machinery, vehicles, electronics, and furniture.
It shouldnt take a rocket scientist to figure out that making our youth face crushing financial pressures like $1500 a month rent with a $7.25 minimum wage or even $15 minimum wage will force them to forgo long term goals to get by month to month.
How can a country with so many less resources like poland have their citizens average cost of living be down to around $800 a month when just housing is double that?
Look at the economics of poland. It's not shocking why their economy is crushing the rest of the world rn. They have free education, free Healthcare, high minimum wage $8.50 USD and cost of living is 32% lower than the US. Also rent is 55% cheaper.
Their biggest exports are machinery, vehicles, electronics, and furniture.
It shouldnt take a rocket scientist to figure out that making our youth face crushing financial pressures like $1500 a month rent with a $7.25 minimum wage or even $15 minimum wage will force them to forgo long term goals to get by month to month.
How can a country with so many less resources like poland have their citizens average cost of living be down to around $800 a month when just housing is double that?
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Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:10 am to Corinthians420
Because America is not controlled by Americans.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:11 am to Corinthians420
The Deep State is about destroying America, not building it up.
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 9:27 am
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:11 am to Corinthians420
Nothing is “free” ….
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:11 am to Corinthians420
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They have free education, free Healthcare,
You have no credibility to speak when you use the term "free" before any of those. Literally too stupid to post.
Are doctors and nurses enslaved? Or professors and administrators slaves? Unless theyre slaves then all of it is PAID for by taxpayers. Its not "free" at all, and its actually EXTREMELY expensive if you even want quality services.
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 9:13 am
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:12 am to Corinthians420
Because we have become an economic zone instead of a nation, and some on this board are going to need to become a little less harsh to economic populism.
The Free Market is great sure, but not if it means my kids won’t be able to get jobs and have to live in a 3rd world hellscape.
The Free Market is great sure, but not if it means my kids won’t be able to get jobs and have to live in a 3rd world hellscape.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:12 am to Monahans
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Because America is not controlled by Americans.
OY VEY?
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:12 am to Corinthians420
How much does Poland spend supporting other nations?
I agree... we need to be America/ Americans first.
And....
I agree... we need to be America/ Americans first.
And....
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Poland is one of the most ethnically homogenous countries in Europe, with about 97.6% of the population identifying as ethnic Poles.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:12 am to Monahans
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Because America is not controlled by Americans.
We might not even be controlled by humans.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:13 am to tiggerthetooth
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You have no credibility to speak when you use the term "free" before any of those. Literally too stupid to post.
Paid for by taxpayers. We could have all those things if we weren't starting stupid wars and pretending that the ultra rich are over taxed
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:13 am to Corinthians420
Poland is extremely strict on immigration, and has one of the smallest Muslim populations in the world.
That should answer your question
That should answer your question
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:15 am to Corinthians420
Excellent question! An amazing country to visit.
I spent some time there. My $.02:
Poland’s lower cost of living—often less than $800 per month for an individual—is influenced by factors such as housing, wages, and lifestyle norms. Many residents occupy smaller homes, which are frequently inherited or owned, resulting in reduced monthly costs. Public transportation is widely available and affordable, while groceries and healthcare are generally priced to align with local income levels. Although the average salary in Poland is lower than in the U.S., expectations regarding space and amenities also differ, contributing to the overall lower expenses.
In comparison, housing costs in the U.S. tend to be higher due to zoning regulations, real estate market dynamics, and preferences for larger homes. Approaches such as multi-generational housing, investment in public transit, and promoting smaller developments with streamlined regulations may help address affordability. Additionally, efforts to lower healthcare and education costs, encourage cooperative ownership, and reconsider consumption patterns could play a role. The distribution of resources and expectations concerning daily life both influence the relative cost of living.
Poland’s average after-tax salary is much lower than in the U.S., due to differences in wages, cost of living, and tax systems. In Poland, the average worker’s pay covers about 1.2 months of expenses, while in the U.S. it’s about 1.8 months. Polish taxes range from 12% to 32% with mandatory social contributions; U.S. federal taxes range from 10% to 37% with fewer required deductions. Even with lower wages, Poland keeps basic costs in line with income, whereas higher U.S. incomes often mean higher essential expenses, making affordability a challenge. Addressing this would require adjusting wage and expense ratios and expanding public services.
I spent some time there. My $.02:
Poland’s lower cost of living—often less than $800 per month for an individual—is influenced by factors such as housing, wages, and lifestyle norms. Many residents occupy smaller homes, which are frequently inherited or owned, resulting in reduced monthly costs. Public transportation is widely available and affordable, while groceries and healthcare are generally priced to align with local income levels. Although the average salary in Poland is lower than in the U.S., expectations regarding space and amenities also differ, contributing to the overall lower expenses.
In comparison, housing costs in the U.S. tend to be higher due to zoning regulations, real estate market dynamics, and preferences for larger homes. Approaches such as multi-generational housing, investment in public transit, and promoting smaller developments with streamlined regulations may help address affordability. Additionally, efforts to lower healthcare and education costs, encourage cooperative ownership, and reconsider consumption patterns could play a role. The distribution of resources and expectations concerning daily life both influence the relative cost of living.
Poland’s average after-tax salary is much lower than in the U.S., due to differences in wages, cost of living, and tax systems. In Poland, the average worker’s pay covers about 1.2 months of expenses, while in the U.S. it’s about 1.8 months. Polish taxes range from 12% to 32% with mandatory social contributions; U.S. federal taxes range from 10% to 37% with fewer required deductions. Even with lower wages, Poland keeps basic costs in line with income, whereas higher U.S. incomes often mean higher essential expenses, making affordability a challenge. Addressing this would require adjusting wage and expense ratios and expanding public services.
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 9:17 am
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:15 am to tiggerthetooth
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its PAID for by taxpayers. Its not "free" at all,
Yeah they spend 22% of their GDP on social welfare programs that include "free" education and "free" Healthcare. And it is paying off 10 fold.
We have neither and spend 16.7% of our GDP on social welfare programs that include keeping addicts their drug supply
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:16 am to Corinthians420
The stock market.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:17 am to Corinthians420
Democrats have ruined America.
MAGA is our only hope
MAGA is our only hope
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:17 am to Corinthians420
What percent of the polish population is providing a net economic contribution to their country? What percent of ours?
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:17 am to Powerman
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Paid for by taxpayers. We could have all those things if we weren't starting stupid wars and pretending that the ultra rich are over taxed
You honestly think the administrative layers on top of those servicez wouldnt immediately turn into a massive money sink like literally everywhere these services exist?
The US has become administrative hell hole. We pay out $$$$$$billions to administrative roles and leave nothing for the people that actually produce goods and services.
Are you just sleeping right now ? Our government consistently wastes money on the most retarded endeavors and you actually believe these lazy administrators would change if you gave them MORE money?
I have no mercy for people that cannot grasp why free free free! Is a stupid idea in the context of how our government has ACTUALLY operated over the decades.
I have a better idea, just go dump a few thousand of your own dollars on a homeless drug addict. The ultimate difference is the same.
Stop expecting the administrative state to do things IT IS NOT MADE TO DO.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:22 am to tiggerthetooth
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the people that actually produce goods and services
Our biggest export is IT/tech solutions. We just put a tariff on that so that our companies that have made 100s of billions of dollars providing that to European countries will now be either out priced by foreign solutions or forced to move over there until countries like poland can develop their own companies capable of doing it domestically. How is this a good long term strategy?
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:27 am to Jack Bauers HnK
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What percent of the polish population is providing a net economic contribution to their country? What percent of ours?
Service industry there is around 65% while here it is around 72%. Not a crazy difference to account for the cost of living difference.
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 9:28 am
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:27 am to Loco Uno
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The Deep State is about destroying America, not building it up.
…and who is the Deep State?
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