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Apple TV 4K - wait for new one?
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:19 pm
Have a Roku soundbar in our living room for streaming. Been having issues with it running slow on Netflix etc. Was thinking of getting the Apple TV 4K to hook up to it, can also hard wire since the router is right next to the setup. I also have a Roku setup in our basement on the nicer tv and it works ok, but would eventually replace it as well.
Should I just wait for the new one or go ahead a replace one upstairs?
Should I just wait for the new one or go ahead a replace one upstairs?
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:27 pm to Shotgun Willie
there are no real differences in AppleTV 4k. Get a gen 2 or later if you want one.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:36 pm to notsince98
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there are no real differences in AppleTV 4k
bro asked if he should wait a month for the new one...
tf did you come from lately ?
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:44 pm to GrammarKnotsi
He means the new one next month isn’t going to be appreciably different.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 3:33 pm to Shotgun Willie
Buy a used one for now until the next one maybe comes out. Still using HD and 1st gen 4Ks in some places around the house and can’t tell the difference in performance yet. I don’t see any reason why if you bought a brand new one today you couldn’t get 10 years of use out of it.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 3:40 pm to s14suspense
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Buy a used one for now until the next one maybe comes out. Still using HD and 1st gen 4Ks in some places around the house and can’t tell the difference in performance yet. I don’t see any reason why if you bought a brand new one today you couldn’t get 10 years of use out of it.
The biggest change in the apple TV 4k models was that the 1st gen is limited to 30hz at 4k where as the 2nd gen and later can do 60Hz at 4k. That would be the only reason I'd say to stick with 2nd gen or newer.
There is also a minor SDR PQ difference between 2nd gen and 3rd gen due some techno mumbo jumbo minutia but for the average user it is nothing to even think about as it isn't likely noticeable.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 8/25/25 at 4:37 pm to Shotgun Willie
The new one hasn't been officially announced yet so I'm not sure how anyone could really give you a definitive answer.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:17 pm to Shotgun Willie
I like Roku ultra as much as Apple TV. Rest of Roku, not so much. Roku streaming sticks would be ok if they had some heat dissipation but their tiny size and placement behind TVs isn’t a good combination.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 6:20 pm to Dallaswho
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I like Roku ultra as much as Apple TV.
The AppleTV interface looks like the AppleTV app on Roku, which I do not like. The only one worse is the Amazon app (why do you keep suggesting movies and shows I've already seen and rated?)
My Roku Ultra was great, but I use it through a Roku soundbar now. How that thing has plenty of space, but still needs to re-download TV apps I use at least every two weeks is odd.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:48 am to Shotgun Willie
The joke is that the ATV is wildly overpowered for most uses now anyway, so people question what a refreshed one can offer (perhaps physical updates/remote updates).
So in that sense, I think the only reason to wait would be to get better pricing on older models. I upgrade with Apple's cycle frequently, I have no interest in updating my Apple TVs unless there are some useful remote upgrades or something.
So in that sense, I think the only reason to wait would be to get better pricing on older models. I upgrade with Apple's cycle frequently, I have no interest in updating my Apple TVs unless there are some useful remote upgrades or something.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:47 am to Pettifogger
One plus of the apple tv is that the ESPN app allows multiview. I think, not certain, that it's still the only one that lets you do that. I have a very old apple tv and it'll have trouble when I have 4 games on multiview. I have looked into getting a new one, but saw that its looks like a new model is coming later this year and will wait and see how much it is.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:35 pm to Dallaswho
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I like Roku ultra as much as Apple TV.
I bought both around the same time, and the more I use them, the more I like apple tv.
That said, the newest version roku remote (full backlighting, USB c rechargeable) is absolute perfection.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 6:15 am to Shotgun Willie
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Should I just wait for the new one or go ahead a replace one upstairs?
There's speculation that Apple is going to use the A17 Pro chip in the new Apple TV. Meaning that it will support Apple Intelligence (Apple's AI functionality) as well give a big boost to games played on the Apple TV.
If you're interested in using AI or playing games on your Apple TV, you'll want the new Apple TV. Otherwise, I don't think the upgrades will really matter since the current generation Apple TVs (3rd gen) are still great for just normal streaming activities.
Of course if a 4th gen gets announced, the 3rd gen prices may come down. So really just a matter of how long you're willing to wait.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:47 am to Shotgun Willie
If you're gaming on it I'd wait, but if you're using it for TV I'd just get it now. It's only $120 so worst case you just move it to another TV in the house.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 5:20 pm to Shotgun Willie
I can’t wait for the new one, mainly because my remote on the first gen 4k is barely hanging on. I’ve dropped the damn thing so many times it’s busted to hell.
I’m also hoping there’s a broader range of accepted modern video codecs. There’s a few movies on my plex server that are encoded in a format my Apple TV won’t play, but my lg oled has no problem with them.
Other than that though, the box has more or less been perfect since day one. I used to occasionally have hdmi port connection issues, but I haven’t had to wiggle the cable to fix it in ages.
I’m also hoping there’s a broader range of accepted modern video codecs. There’s a few movies on my plex server that are encoded in a format my Apple TV won’t play, but my lg oled has no problem with them.
Other than that though, the box has more or less been perfect since day one. I used to occasionally have hdmi port connection issues, but I haven’t had to wiggle the cable to fix it in ages.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 8/30/25 at 9:26 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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playing games on your Apple TV
Do I use my iPhone for the controller, or the remote? I’ve never used Apple TV so I didn’t even know that gaming was a thing, is it the same games as the phone?
Posted on 9/1/25 at 4:23 pm to gizmothepug
I would think you could use an Xbox/playstation controller via Bluetooth, but I don’t know the real answer
Posted on 9/1/25 at 7:09 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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If you're interested in using AI or playing games on your Apple TV, you'll want the new Apple TV.
Is there really a market for either?
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:22 pm to lsuconnman
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Is there really a market for either?
Don't ask silly questions!
People that want to use Grok or ChatGPT use their computers. Or their phones. What would you do with it on AppleTV? You going to key in your resume or something to ask it to improve it? Stupid.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:04 am to tlsu15
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I would think you could use an Xbox/playstation controller via Bluetooth, but I don’t know the real answer
This is correct. Any controller with bluetooth should work.
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