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Trump just now: changing “Department of Defense” to the “Department of War”

Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:22 pm
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:22 pm
Just now in his press conference

This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 12:24 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:23 pm to
I mean, that’s what it was once titled and it’s much more honest.
Posted by LB84
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:25 pm to


Henry Knox approves.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:27 pm to
I like it!

I'd like it better if it were back to The War Department instead of the Department of War.

Posted by lsufan1971
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:29 pm to
He is continuing to flood the zone. He wants democrats losing their minds about shite like this meanwhile he is doing work.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:29 pm to
Calling it "defense" has been major bullshite for a long time, anyway. At least now, when we dump endless boatloads of cash into the pockets of the MIC, it will be war spending... which is what it is.
Posted by Harper
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:29 pm to
From the guy who wants the Nobel peace prize
Posted by HeadCall
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:29 pm to
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We want offense too


Putin better get right
Posted by TheBoo
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:32 pm to
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From the guy who wants the Nobel peace prize


You want him to want the Nobel peace prize. There's a difference.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 1:15 pm
Posted by Riverside
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:34 pm to
I voted for this!!!!!
Posted by Nosevens
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:41 pm to
When nobody wants to fight then you have peace
Posted by TechBullDawg
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:43 pm to
War Department
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:44 pm to
Next week we're renaming the White House "White Castle"
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:46 pm to
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I'd like it better if it were back to The War Department instead of the Department of War.


"Back to"? It was never officially "The War Department". That was just a common description. Just like "the Defense Department" instead of its official name.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:46 pm to
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From the guy who wants the Nobel peace prize
He changes the name back to what it originally was
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:51 pm to
If you put, particularly the best of the best, of U.S. Secretaries of War up against these Cold War politicians who have held the title of Secretary of Defense, it isn't even close.

Benjamin Lincoln, Henry Knox, James McHenry, Henry Dearborn, William Eustis, John Armstrong, James Monroe, William Crawford, John C. Calhoun - these giants, this caliber of men held the office during the first half-century of the nation.

Look at the folks since the office morphed into one of passivity and political machination - certainly George Mashall was a great man - a giant of an anachronism, really. But, look at some of these others:

Forrestal, Johnson and Lovett were good guys. None of them could be considered giants. Ike's picks were curious, for sure. Engine Charlie, Neil McElroy, Gates? These were industrialists, key figures in the MIC that Ike tried to warn us about. McNamara? Another bean counter from the auto industry who might as well have killed 10s of thousands of American troops himself.

Clifford? Bureaucrat and fixer.
Laird was an improvement on McNamara and Clifford but hardly a giant.
Richardson was a band-aid
Schlesinger - another bureaucrat
Rumsfeld I - no comment
Harold Brown - Weakness personified (despite being probably our smartest SECDEF and maybe cabinet official ever)

Cap? Probably the greatest SECDEF outside of Marshall - still wouldn't consider him a giant, though - close

Carlucci? Meh. (My first SECDEF in uniform)
Cheney? Satan
Aspin? The worst of Brown and McNamara.
Perry? Just the worst sort of political opportunist. Not as malignant as Aspin, though, so an improvement of sorts
Cohen? A Republican version of Perry
Rumsfeld II? Not as bad as Cheney
Bob Gates? On the whole, he was alright. But, consider the string of dudes before him since Cap.
Panetta? Hegel? Ash Carter? Meh.
Mattis? I had high hopes. He was better as a general. Honestly, he was my last SECDEF in uniform and I don't have a single memory good or bad.

Esper? Meh
Austin?

Handsome Pete? The first since Cap with real potential

So, why not change back?
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 12:54 pm
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:52 pm to
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"Back to"? It was never officially "The War Department". That was just a common description. Just like "the Defense Department" instead of its official name.



United States Deparment of War -or- War Department

The DOD website disagrees with you. It was the War Department for 158 years until 1947.

Posted by TerryDawg03
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

Calling it "defense" has been major bullshite for a long time, anyway. At least now, when we dump endless boatloads of cash into the pockets of the MIC, it will be war spending... which is what it is.


Came to say the same thing. This is good is many ways.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
8750 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:54 pm to
Good decision. We simply must spend more money on war.
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

Calling it "defense" has been major bullshite for a long time, anyway. At least now, when we dump endless boatloads of cash into the pockets of the MIC, it will be war spending... which is what it is.



"No Department of Defense ever won a war; see the histories." - Robert Heinlein.
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