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I still can't get passed Zach Baun not being able to see the field while on this team

Posted on 8/20/25 at 8:57 am
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 8:57 am
How the frick does that happen?

I know Allen is a clown but still

Jesus.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
79128 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:03 am to
maybe there were off the field issues

Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4896 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:16 am to
Dennis Allen is a complete idiot. Look at the year we had Browner and how many times he put him on the speed receiver (this was 2015 when we brought Allen in to "baby sit" Ryan and run the coverage after Ryan failed to mimic the Payton mandated Seattle Cover 3 defense in 2014 which he had never run before and certainly did not have the players for, after an EXTREMELY successful 2013 defense getting us into the top 5 in both yards and points iirc with his man blitz scheme).

Not to mention 3rd and Allen where anything over 6 yards was almost a guaranteed conversion for the other team.

We have had so much defensive talent wasted because of Allen. We luckily had a brief period where they largely outplayed his scheme (when Payton was still here), but it's directly because of 3rd and Allen we were never able to go far enough.

All we can do now is move on with what we have after that jack arse royally fricked the team.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127758 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:18 am to
You know what's even funnier?

He'd be a great fit for the system we run now
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15586 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:54 am to
quote:

I still can't get passed Zach Baun not being able to see the field while on this team



Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13687 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 10:02 am to
We also let a top 3 de go for absolutely nothing and blew 3 firsts and a high 2nd rounder on scrubs trying to replace him.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 10:03 am
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 10:14 am to
quote:

I still can't get passed Zach Baun not being able to see the field while on this team


the side bar of this issue is that it would have been nice if pete werner tapped into his full potential of what the saints staff were seeing. Werner is good but its like he plateaued a bit.
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
35454 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 10:26 am to
I wish we would have let Peat and Marcus Williams walk. That would have let us resign Vonn Bell and Hendrickson. Instead we signed Peat with the goal of signing Williams, but couldn’t afford him either after he blew up his contract year.

Also, Allen is a moron as a head coach. Baun rushes the passer very well. We had no pass rush. Yet Baun never saw the field. Beyond dumb!!!
Posted by unctiger4
Member since Mar 2015
2369 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 10:45 am to
quote:

Dennis Allen is a complete idiot.


As a head coach, sure.

quote:

Not to mention 3rd and Allen where anything over 6 yards was almost a guaranteed conversion for the other team. We have had so much defensive talent wasted because of Allen. We luckily had a brief period where they largely outplayed his scheme (when Payton was still here), but it's directly because of 3rd and Allen we were never able to go far enough.


This is dumb. He was a very good DC and a big reason why we were good between 2017-2020. Offense couldn’t deliver in the playoffs in 2019 and 2020.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73893 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 10:48 am to
It wasn’t like Baun was here for a season and they couldn’t figure something out for him… he was here 4 seasons! And… they liked him enough to move up in the draft for him. Just bizarre that they saw “something” to trade up for him, but couldn’t even find a way to even use him
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile, AL.
Member since May 2008
35374 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 10:56 am to
Baun had tha great play against the Lions a few years ago.

He was facing Sewell and beat him around the end by dipping his shoulder and going right around him and threw Goff for a big loss and made them punt on that drive.

Why they could not try and exploit mismatches like that in other games or hell even later on in that same game who knkws?
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 11:01 am
Posted by saintlad74
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2016
1098 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:59 am to
How the frick does that happen?

I know Allen is a clown but still

Jesus.
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I'm not taking anything away from Dennis Allen being a complete idiot of a coach.

However, Zack Baun chose the right team to go to.

First of all the Eagles defense is made up of top pick players and mainly from Georgia and Alabama.

But most important is that Vic Fangio is the defensive coordinator

The man is legendary as far as his defenses go.

Hell he's one of the architects of the Dome Patrol, so yeah, Baun is supposed to do well in that defense.

Baun has talent, but would he have done well somewhere else? Is he a product of the system? I like to see how he does without Vic Fangio calling plays or having an offense with Saquan Barkley to keep their defense on the sidelines longer.

* One other thing to note, who did Philadelphia play last year?

Obviously the NFC South, we know how bad that division was

They play Jacksonville last year

They played the Giants twice last year

That's basically 7 games there that a defense can ball out.




Posted by illuminatic
Manipulating politicans&rappers
Member since Sep 2012
7024 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Look at the year we had Browner and how many times he put him on the speed receiver


They are all speed receivers when Browner is in man coverage.
Posted by Sunnyvale
Member since Feb 2024
2256 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

They are all speed receivers when Browner is in man coverage.


He was never used as a boundry corner coming from NE.
They used him specifically in packages, but they trotted him out there as a boundry corner.

I remember watching the game where Browner kept getting burned, and DA said something to him, then B.B went off on him. Cant blame him.

But yeah. Baun also said he had to re dedicate himself to the "game"
So maybe there was something else there going on.

I remember when Malcom Jenkins went to the Eagles and became very successful there. He had mentioned the same thing.

Reguardless though, Saints Staff/Personall dont seem to ever have the right people in the building on the management side.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
58361 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

You know what's even funnier?

He'd be a great fit for the system we run now


He would
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
58361 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

It wasn’t like Baun was here for a season and they couldn’t figure something out for him… he was here 4 seasons! And… they liked him enough to move up in the draft for him. Just bizarre that they saw “something” to trade up for him, but couldn’t even find a way to even use him



exactly, 4 seasons.

Its insane.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
9596 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 3:32 pm to
*past
Posted by TigerSaurus
Member since Apr 2024
2361 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:13 pm to

This happens when you have a scheme and find players for the scheme

VERSUS

Identifying what a player does best and let him do those things on the field… scheme be damned.
Posted by VA LSU fan
Virginia
Member since Dec 2007
8587 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 8:47 pm to
It’s Loomis and Allen.

They might have been the worse HC and GM combination in the NFL this millennium
Posted by brewdrees
Member since Aug 2018
5413 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 3:42 am to
This site is the only place fans cry over every past player who goes to another team and does anything lol.

You never hear other fan base bish like this lol.
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