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Are brown, red and amber ales ever going to make a comeback?

Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:23 am
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:23 am
Seems like we’ve been in a really heavy IPA centric state of brewing for well over a decade now.

Does anyone miss what used to be a ubiquitous pub staple?

A good brown ale on tap. A nice Bell’s Amber Ale was such a treat back in the day that you really don’t see anymore.
Posted by Gnar Cat21
Piña Coladaburg
Member since Sep 2009
17122 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:25 am to
I haven't seen much of a comback with those in Colorado, but I have seen a comeback in pilsers and lagers which is nice. I love a good hazy, but the older I get the harder it is to drink 8 of them in a night
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39607 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Does anyone miss what used to be a ubiquitous pub staple?


Dearly. I have my local beer & wine store special order a case of Rochefort 10 for me so I can always make sure I have some available to scratch that itch. Trappist ale technically but same general family.



quote:

Seems like we’ve been in a really heavy IPA centric state of brewing for well over a decade now.



This fad can't end soon enough.
Posted by RichJ
The Land of the CoonAss
Member since Nov 2016
5003 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:53 am to
Man, I love Abita Amber!
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27336 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:16 am to
While I love IPA, I still enjoy a good amber as well. Especially in an outdoor setting when it’s over 85 degrees.

I like some brown ales. Never been much a fan of the red ales, though.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:20 am to
You'll really like this one Pawl.


Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Rochefort 10 for me so I can always make sure I have some available to scratch that itch. Trappist ale technically but same general family.


What? I guess if you mean dark beer but otherwise it's a totally different animal from an amber/brown.

I see ambers and browns on the menu of most places I go and will occasionally have one. I drank a few Boddingtons a few weeks ago, mainly because they didn't have a great beer selection but I enjoyed "The Cream of Manchester". I've noticed a few brew pubs around me will have "pub ales" on the menu most the time.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39607 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:04 am to
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What? I guess if you mean dark beer but otherwise it's a totally different animal from an amber/brown.


If it is a Trappist dubbel it is absolutely a brown. Though the 10 is a quad and not a brown, i say general family as both are going to generally be dark brown in color with prominent malty and caramel flavors. While your weaker brown ales are going to be pretty different, your stronger brown ales are going to be very similar in flavor profile to a Quad. Maybe cousins would have been a better term? Brown or a Quad would scratch the same itch for me if I was craving a beer in those styles.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79915 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:48 am to
Scottish red ales are hard to find in the US, and yet they are so smooth and good.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39607 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:32 pm to
They are good, but man have I seemed to have a bad run with ones i've found recently. Granted, i'm trying ones that I know nothing about, so could always say that about any beer, just seemingly had back luck with them lately. A good scottish red is damn tasty though.
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
8383 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:37 pm to
Creature Comforts had a cask-conditioned English-Style Brown Ale last night. Reminiscent of Sam Smith Nut Brown Ale.
Was delicious.
Posted by Prosecuted Collins
The Farm
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:52 pm to
I want to visit the version of the world Paul Allen lives in. He's always commenting like he just got out of a third world prison and is just catching up on the trends from 5 years ago. At this point it has be willful ignorance or just an inability to bring to bear basic observations on society. He's a fascinating individual.
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
24677 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:21 pm to
I hope so. I'm honestly tired of IPAs and prefer all the ones you mentioned.
Posted by Big Chipper
Charlotte, NC
Member since Sep 2008
2930 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:36 pm to
Nothing better than a Brooklyn Brown Ale on tap paired with a medium rare prime steak.
Posted by wesfau
Member since Mar 2023
1807 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:47 pm to
They make fantastic beers. Never had a bad one of any style from CC.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56842 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:01 pm to
I've been largely into lagers over the last couple years now. However, a good toasted coconut brown ale is a fantastic beer. And now i have an idea for my next-ish beer to brew.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:02 pm to


Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
20819 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:11 pm to
I love a traditional English bitter or brown ale with low ABV.

America finally stated making beer beyond BMC, and we’ve had trends of IPA, imperial stouts, and other hoppy high ABV beers. Now we’re seeing light, low alcohol, and no alcohol, as well as Mexican lagers as trends.


Seems like they’ve all had a moment except for English bitter or brown ale. You see a few of them, but many craft places have nothing close to those styles.

PS: I read an article recently that said the name English bitter is falling out of style in the UK. Brewers are changing the names of bitters to amber ale or the like.
Posted by DR93Berlin
Member since Jul 2020
1541 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:54 pm to
That kind of Newcastle is long gone. Lagunitas screwed it up. Used to be my go-to summer beer
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 3:55 pm
Posted by Louie T
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2006
36585 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

I want to visit the version of the world Paul Allen lives in. He's always commenting like he just got out of a third world prison and is just catching up on the trends from 5 years ago. At this point it has be willful ignorance or just an inability to bring to bear basic observations on society. He's a fascinating individual.

I can also find good examples of every style of beer within 2 miles of my house. Don't live in Bunkie or Ferriday if you want twelve different brown ales.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 5:41 pm
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