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I don't understand what people expect Israel to do
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:57 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:57 am
Like many I'm not a fan of Israel's outside influence with the United States. That said. Placing myself in the shoes of whomever leads Israel I would love to know what my options are in the Middle East from those who tend to oppose Israel
It's a teeny tiny Nation surrounded by Nations that don't just dislike it they want it to cease to exist. People getting mad about how hard Israel hits back but frankly I'm always of a mind that it seems like they're too nice about it
The only chance Israel has of surviving as a nation is by scaring the shite out of their neighbors. I think it's kind of easy to sit over here in the United States or really anywhere else in the world and talking about what you wouldn't do when there's basically no chance you'll ever be asked to do it. It's like being 350 lb and bragging about not cheating on your wife. Well of course you didn't
It's a teeny tiny Nation surrounded by Nations that don't just dislike it they want it to cease to exist. People getting mad about how hard Israel hits back but frankly I'm always of a mind that it seems like they're too nice about it
The only chance Israel has of surviving as a nation is by scaring the shite out of their neighbors. I think it's kind of easy to sit over here in the United States or really anywhere else in the world and talking about what you wouldn't do when there's basically no chance you'll ever be asked to do it. It's like being 350 lb and bragging about not cheating on your wife. Well of course you didn't
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:59 am to Grumpy Nemesis
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It's a teeny tiny Nation surrounded by Nations that don't just dislike it they want it to cease to exist.
It's like prison. Make the other inmates think you are an off the rails crazy mother fricker capable of anything.
I mean, I'm not a fan of Israeli influence either, but you can't blame them for looking out for number 1. After all, that is what I want the United States to do.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:00 am to Grumpy Nemesis
I expect them to defend themselves. I wish they would completely eliminate any faction whose entire purpose is to destroy them. My empathy and compassion for aggressive violent "coexist" motherfrickers is pretty much spent. I don't care if it's Hamas, Iranian fundamentalists, or "free Palestine" dipshits. Take the gloves off.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:02 am to Grumpy Nemesis
Spot on. If your neighbor won’t ever be happy until you are dead and gone what else can you do other than move? Israel is at an us or them scenario. Frankly, they should just wipe them all off the planet for good and live happily ever after in the shite hole that is the Middle East.
Edit….and to those who will blindly downvote. Explain what other options Israel has? Don’t tell me history of who did what to whom. It doesn’t matter at this point. It’s all about survival and they really don’t have any other options.
Edit….and to those who will blindly downvote. Explain what other options Israel has? Don’t tell me history of who did what to whom. It doesn’t matter at this point. It’s all about survival and they really don’t have any other options.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 7:06 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:02 am to Grumpy Nemesis
Love or hate their influence and tight relationship with the U.S., this is how Israel survives.
The Israelis are so tactical in their thinking and execution. Israel’s military strength can’t come from brute force given its size, but from a culture that values smart, creative, and quick decision-making.
The Israelis are so tactical in their thinking and execution. Israel’s military strength can’t come from brute force given its size, but from a culture that values smart, creative, and quick decision-making.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:03 am to Grumpy Nemesis
They should have done this on on October 8, 2023
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:03 am to Grumpy Nemesis
If Isreal wants to continue as a country, they can't allow Iran to create a nuclear weapon.
Its that simple. I can guarantee you that no other ME country wants Iran to obtain a nuclear weapon, which is why no ME country will help Iran militarily.
The job of dealing with Iran falls to Isreal because Iran is a threat to Israel's existence.
Its that simple. I can guarantee you that no other ME country wants Iran to obtain a nuclear weapon, which is why no ME country will help Iran militarily.
The job of dealing with Iran falls to Isreal because Iran is a threat to Israel's existence.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:07 am to Grumpy Nemesis
They own and control a yuge portion of the world's wealth. They should buy whatever they feel is necessary for their defensive, and offensive purposes. They should do this with their giant piles of cash. They should stop asking the US to foot their bills.
They are the Zelenski that never goes away.
They are the Zelenski that never goes away.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:13 am to Grumpy Nemesis
Some people just hate it when the good guys win.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:16 am to Grumpy Nemesis
They want Israel to do nothing and get blown up by everybody around them. Why? Because Trump is bad
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:17 am to Grumpy Nemesis
Its the middle east do its a shite show . Has been for a 1000 years
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:24 am to FLTech
Its become very clear that Trump is using Israel as a bludgeon to force Iran to make a deal, on our terms. People need to look at what Trump is saying, Iran has no leverage now
Air defense, gone
Nuclear facilities, gone
Nuclear scientists, gone
IRGC leadership, gone
The aid agreement with Israel expires in 2028 and shouldnt be renewed, but people asking what we are getting for our money, this is it right here. Would be nice if our other allies were to ever do the same. We have subsidized trillions in defense for Europe and received nothing but condemnation in return while they propped up the Chinese and Russian economies and helped Iran evade sanctions
Air defense, gone
Nuclear facilities, gone
Nuclear scientists, gone
IRGC leadership, gone
The aid agreement with Israel expires in 2028 and shouldnt be renewed, but people asking what we are getting for our money, this is it right here. Would be nice if our other allies were to ever do the same. We have subsidized trillions in defense for Europe and received nothing but condemnation in return while they propped up the Chinese and Russian economies and helped Iran evade sanctions
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:40 am to Grumpy Nemesis
They could stop starving and murdering children. Netanyahu’s Likud coalition and the other far right Zionist parties there are pieces of shite. The Middle East will be fricked as long as those dickheads are in charge.
Let’s say all the Arabs and others left Palestine today and Israel moves its borders to wherever they want; tomorrow they still share borders with Muslim countries so what then? How long will that last before we’re doing all this again. It will never be good enough.
Let’s say all the Arabs and others left Palestine today and Israel moves its borders to wherever they want; tomorrow they still share borders with Muslim countries so what then? How long will that last before we’re doing all this again. It will never be good enough.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 7:46 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:42 am to Grumpy Nemesis
Cool. They can do it without our involvement or money, which they clearly don’t even need.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:43 am to Grumpy Nemesis
One or the other needs to finish the job.
It's an endless money pit.
It's an endless money pit.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:45 am to RoyalWe
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My empathy and compassion for aggressive violent "coexist" motherfrickers is pretty much spent
Wondering if in the next week we will begin to see the old boomer liberal hippies mind warp and suddenly start DEFENDING nukes.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:49 am to Grumpy Nemesis
I support Israel defending itself and only with US involvement where it makes sense for true US national security; not the benefit of war hawks in DC.
While I don’t agree with all of Israel’s tactics, Americans also don’t understand what it’s like to live in a neighborhood where everyone around you wants you and your country eliminated.
We are the global apex predator and we have the added benefit of two beautiful oceans, so we really can’t empathize with what Israelis experience.
That said, the US should help in their defense if they are truly attacked, but we don’t need to be embroiled in these types of offensive exercises.
While I don’t agree with all of Israel’s tactics, Americans also don’t understand what it’s like to live in a neighborhood where everyone around you wants you and your country eliminated.
We are the global apex predator and we have the added benefit of two beautiful oceans, so we really can’t empathize with what Israelis experience.
That said, the US should help in their defense if they are truly attacked, but we don’t need to be embroiled in these types of offensive exercises.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:51 am to Grumpy Nemesis
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Like many I'm not a fan of Israel's outside influence with the United States. That said. Placing myself in the shoes of whomever leads Israel I would love to know what my options are in the Middle East from those who tend to oppose Israel
It's a teeny tiny Nation surrounded by Nations that don't just dislike it they want it to cease to exist. People getting mad about how hard Israel hits back but frankly I'm always of a mind that it seems like they're too nice about it
You are not allowed to be objective here. You either have to hate Israel with all your might or you are sucking Netanyahu's dick, there is no in-between.
For the record, I'm in the same boat as you on this.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:51 am to Grumpy Nemesis
Too much common sense in this thread
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:51 am to UncleLogger
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Let’s say all the Arabs and others left Palestine today and Israel moves its borders to wherever they want; tomorrow they still share borders with Muslim countries so what then? How long will that last before we’re doing all this again.
As long as it takes for those other Muslim countries to start launching rockets at Israel. If they leave Israel alone it would last forever,
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