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LA Legis want to cut taxes for oil. They'd pay for it by upping taxes on natural gas.

Posted on 5/12/25 at 9:30 am
Posted by ragincajun03
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 9:30 am
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A package of bills aimed at boosting oil production and making Louisiana's tax code more competitive with those of neighboring states sailed through the Louisiana House Thursday. But the measures could face headwinds in the Senate, amid questions over their long-term impact on state coffers.

House Bill 600, sponsored by state Rep. Brett Geymann, a Republican from Lake Charles, would cut the severance tax rate on crude oil extracted from new wells nearly in half, reducing revenues by around $87 million over a five-year period, according to a legislative fiscal note.

To offset those losses, Geymann's House Bill 495 would limit a severance tax exemption for natural gas produced from horizontally drilled wells, resulting in $99 million in additional revenue during the same period, according to its fiscal note.

Taken together, the bills would mean slightly more tax money for Louisiana over the next five years. But long term, the changes would likely result in a net reduction of tax revenues, according to an economist who worked on the proposal and said the higher taxes on gas activity would not make up for the losses from oil drilling.

Reducing Louisiana's severance tax on oil has long been a priority of the business lobby, energy industry and Republican elected officials, including Gov. Jeff Landry and House Speaker Phillip DeVillier, R-Eunice. At 12.5%, it's the highest severance tax in the continental U.S. and hasn't changed since 1973.

Landry's transition committee argued that reducing the tax would "incentivize and amplify drilling in south Louisiana," and DeVillier sponsored bills each year from 2020-2023 that would've reduced the rate, though none became law.


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Supporters of the proposals argue that cutting the severance tax on oil to 6.5% will result in more oil production, particularly in south Louisiana.

“Getting the severance tax lowered on oil will bring some much-needed prosperity back to the coast,” state Rep. Jacob Landry, R-Erath, told lawmakers at a committee hearing Monday. Landry is the president of Industrial and Oilfield Services, Inc., an oil and gas construction firm.

"We’re looking at projects that are feasible now with the lower severance tax," he added.

Geymann said he hopes that the tax cut will spur enough new oil production to make up for the loss in revenue.


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Meanwhile, the boost in revenue from limiting the tax exemption for natural gas will be felt more immediately. Louisiana currently exempts severance taxes on natural gas produced from new horizontal wells for the first 24 months of operation or until the cost of constructing the well is recuperated. HB495 reduces that to 18 months or until well payout is achieved.

The measure is also aimed at making Louisiana more competitive with its neighbors. The severance tax on oil is 4.6 percent in Texas and 5 percent in both Arkansas and Mississippi, though Texas and four other states also charge property taxes on oil and gas reserves in the ground, while Louisiana doesn’t.

Meanwhile, natural gas production in Louisiana is taxed at a relatively low rate. "It's just true that oil has a way higher tax burden than natural gas in Louisiana," Upton said.

Geymann said he's working with both oil and natural gas interests to make sure everybody is happy. "You don't want to hurt one to help the other," he said. "We're trying to find that sweet spot where everybody can win."


Original Article from NOLA.com: LINK

Where I pulled the pieces from since I don't have a subscription: LINK
This post was edited on 5/12/25 at 9:33 am
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 9:31 am to
Explain this to me in terms of truck nutz on or off?
Posted by PoBoy1
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 9:36 am to
Why not just cut the tax rate for oil and leave natural gas alone? Oh yeah, it's LA.
Posted by Cotten
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2018
1571 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 9:41 am to
The new Delta Utilities owned by that PE firm are fixing to fight the hell out of this
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:10 am to
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At 12.5%, it's the highest severance tax in the continental U.S. and hasn't changed since 1973.

The severance tax on oil is 4.6 percent in Texas and 5 percent in both Arkansas and Mississippi, though Texas and four other states also charge property taxes on oil and gas reserves in the ground, while Louisiana doesn’t.

Which means it is possible that O&G companies are paying more in taxes in these other states?

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Supporters of the proposals argue that cutting the severance tax on oil to 6.5% will result in more oil production, particularly in south Louisiana.

What are the chances that these estimated increases in production are worked into the $87M reduction in revenues from the lowered taxes before planning to increase natural gas tax revenues by $99M. But what politician in his right mind would lower taxes in one area without finding a way to increase taxes somewhere else just so they can stand on how they lowered taxes.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:50 am to
My prediction:

Retail natural gas prices will increase due to increase In tax

Retail oil prices will NOT decrease to account for reduction in tax
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
4074 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 1:04 pm to
Can’t get out of their own way. Classic Louisiana
Posted by Jcorye1
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75165 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 1:05 pm to
Can we stop giving individual industry tax incentives?
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 1:07 pm to
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Which means it is possible that O&G companies are paying more in taxes in these other states?


Severance is only one tax on O&G, so it would be a very, very tough comparison between states.
Posted by WhiskeyThief
Madisonville
Member since Oct 2018
459 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 10:28 pm to
MORONS
Posted by Train is comin
Deer Park
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 5:15 am to
Make Louisiana average again.
Posted by tigerstripedjacket
This side of the wall
Member since Sep 2011
3110 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:10 am to
Why not just give it a 5 year sunset rule?

Reduce the natural gas tax break, increasing costs for the next five years. They are already here and capturing natural gas. They won’t leave before five years, and they will stay knowing it is a short term cost of doing business.

You would increase short term oil production, incentivize them to stay and develop their current oil productions sites, and the net result on state taxes is neutral.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
20176 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:00 am to
So Geymann learned that his land has oil but not gas?
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
7644 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:10 am to
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Retail natural gas prices will increase due to increase In tax

Retail oil prices will NOT decrease to account for reduction in tax



Exactly. And a very very large percentage of our electricity is from natural gas. That means that the cost gets passed on to around 76% of the homes in Louisiana. Essentially they are increasing the taxing of the citizens.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
16435 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:18 am to
This will greatly effect haynseville operators and royalty owners.

Also, let’s compare property tax on a straight hole oil well, many if not the majority are old, with a 2-mile lateral HA gas well. I have a JIB on a (one) 2-mile well CHK drilled in 2022, first year property tax $500k.

The Legislature is a joke.
Posted by RaginRampage
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:27 am to
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At 12.5%, it's the highest severance tax in the continental U.S. and hasn't changed since 1973.

The severance tax on oil is 4.6 percent in Texas and 5 percent in both Arkansas and Mississippi, though Texas and four other states also charge property taxes on oil and gas reserves in the ground, while Louisiana doesn’t.



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Which means it is possible that O&G companies are paying more in taxes in these other states?


They cleverly worded this line. Louisiana does not charge Property (Ad Valorem) taxes on O&G wells on reserves in the ground, but rather on a depth basis with set schedules. They make it sound as if they pay no Property taxes in Louisiana.
Posted by RaginRampage
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:33 am to
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Why not just cut the tax rate for oil and leave natural gas alone? Oh yeah, it's LA.


That's exactly what they're doing... There are no proposed changes to the severance tax rate on gas, but reducing the maximum length of time a severance tax exemption on gas could occur for qualifying wells. Most operators are likely reaching payout or very near payout in those first 12-18 months anyway.
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
1713 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:36 am to
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Can we stop giving individual industry tax incentives?


Ummmm how do you think we’re supposed to get businesses to come here??
Because it’s not gonna be for schools, income tax, infrastructure, etc
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
16435 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:43 am to
Exemption ends the earlier of 2 years or payout. So based on your estimation why not leave it alone?

Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 9:36 am to
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The Legislature is a joke.

The current legislature has to be the absolute worst in a very long time, and that’s saying a lot. They are all bought & paid for by PAC’s and lobbyists.
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