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Zac Cowan vs. Chase Shores as starter
Posted on 4/16/25 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 4/16/25 at 2:20 pm
In 17 appearances (all as a starter) for Wofford last year, Cowan averaged 6.2 innings per start. He pitched 3 complete games. He was highly reliable and durable as a starter - a proven commodity to eat innings and minimize bullpen workload.
Hopefully this will be the week that Jay makes a change, adding Cowan to the rotation as Sunday starter and moving Shores to the bullpen.
Dramatic comparison of Cowan vs. Shores in SEC play:
Cowan:
0.47 ERA, 19.1 IP, 1 ER, 4 BB, 23 K, .145 B/AVG
Shores:
7.23 ERA, 18.2 IP, 15 ER, 13 BB, 19 K, .297 B/AVG

Hopefully this will be the week that Jay makes a change, adding Cowan to the rotation as Sunday starter and moving Shores to the bullpen.
Dramatic comparison of Cowan vs. Shores in SEC play:
Cowan:
0.47 ERA, 19.1 IP, 1 ER, 4 BB, 23 K, .145 B/AVG
Shores:
7.23 ERA, 18.2 IP, 15 ER, 13 BB, 19 K, .297 B/AVG

This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 4/16/25 at 2:22 pm to Jack Crevalle
The SEC stat comparison is a strong argument for making the change.
Cowan's line is beyond impressive
Cowan's line is beyond impressive
Posted on 4/16/25 at 2:25 pm to 214
Would rather Cowan start and Shores go to relief to avoid the catastrophe this past weekend where we were essentially in the position on Sunday that we hardly saw one of Cowan/Evans at all.
Get as many weekend innings as you possibly can out of Anderson, Cowan, Eyanson, Evans
Get as many weekend innings as you possibly can out of Anderson, Cowan, Eyanson, Evans
This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 4/16/25 at 2:33 pm to Who_Dat_Tiger
And hitters could be thrown off trying to adjust to such a drastic change in pitching styles if Shores relieves Cowan - going from seeing Cowan's nasty offspeed stuff to 98 MPH heaters from Shores.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 2:38 pm to Jack Crevalle
Jay for once responded to a question about the rotation with unsurity. Like all other times he could have said "no change", but he opted to say because Alabama has not announced their rotation he will not announce theirs. Makes me think this could be the week Cowan slides in.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 2:41 pm to nmh3303
quote:
Jay for once responded to a question about the rotation with unsurity. Like all other times he could have said "no change", but he opted to say because Alabama has not announced their rotation he will not announce theirs. Makes me think this could be the week Cowan slides in.
Coming off being swept last weekend, and him tinkering with the lineup last night, you'd think that now would be the time if he was considering inserting Cowan.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 2:41 pm to Jack Crevalle
It does no good to save Cowan and Evans for Sunday if Shores is not going to give them a lead
Majority of time Cowan and Evans should pitch on Fri or Sat to win those games
If you can get to Sunday with Cowan and Evans then I would definitely start Cowan over Shores
Majority of time Cowan and Evans should pitch on Fri or Sat to win those games
If you can get to Sunday with Cowan and Evans then I would definitely start Cowan over Shores
Posted on 4/16/25 at 2:43 pm to Jack Crevalle
Friday Anderson
Saturday Cowan
Sunday Eyanson
Saturday Cowan
Sunday Eyanson
Posted on 4/16/25 at 2:43 pm to Jack Crevalle
Here's the thing Shores is plenty talented but it's obvious he lost a step since recovering from TJ. Let him come in relief to fix his stuff and get better at his spots. Cowan while I want him to stay as relief would be able to eat innings well as a starter.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 2:45 pm to Jack Crevalle
quote:
In 17 appearances (all as a starter) for Wofford last year, Cowan averaged 6.2 innings per start. He pitched 3 complete games. He was highly reliable and durable as a starter - a proven commodity to eat innings and minimize bullpen workload.
Hopefully this will be the week that Jay makes a change, adding Cowan to the rotation as Sunday starter and moving Shores to the bullpen.
Dramatic comparison of Cowan vs. Shores in SEC play:
Cowan:
0.47 ERA, 19.1 IP, 1 ER, 4 BB, 23 K, .145 B/AVG
Shores:
7.23 ERA, 18.2 IP, 15 ER, 13 BB, 19 K, .297 B/AVG
The argument for keeping Cowan where he is isn't because you don't realize he's a better, more effective pitcher than Shores.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 2:51 pm to Jack Crevalle
Jay could make an argument in the Auburn series not to take Cowan out of his comfort zone of relief. What I can’t understand is letting us get down 3 runs before giving Cowan the ball. We were struggling bad offensively. Shores should have a really quick hook.
This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 4/16/25 at 3:01 pm to DhanTigers212
quote:and in a save situation you bring in Evans to shut opponent down otherwise Shores first out the pen and Schmidt when Shores is already spent. That’s how I’d approach it at least.
Friday Anderson
Saturday Cowan
Sunday Eyanson
That’s our 6 best arms. Then you need a few more to step up to rely on for a couple innings between Noot, Rizy, Ware, Benge, Williams and Mayers
Posted on 4/16/25 at 3:05 pm to Jack Crevalle
I go back and forth on this. Cowan is plenty good enough to be a starter for us, obviously. You want to get the most use out of an arm that good as you can.
At the same time, having the ability to bring him in during a close game in the 7th inning and feel like you have shut down the game is a great sense of relief to a staff.
The downside to keeping him in the bullpen is you have a weekend like last weekend and you essentially don't get to use him at all. I don't think it's strictly as black and white as him clearly being good enough to be a starter. I'd definitely be down to give it a shot and see if putting Shores in the bullpen helps him at all.
At the same time, having the ability to bring him in during a close game in the 7th inning and feel like you have shut down the game is a great sense of relief to a staff.
The downside to keeping him in the bullpen is you have a weekend like last weekend and you essentially don't get to use him at all. I don't think it's strictly as black and white as him clearly being good enough to be a starter. I'd definitely be down to give it a shot and see if putting Shores in the bullpen helps him at all.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 3:22 pm to Jack Crevalle
I like this move, especially since we seem to have some improvement in our bullpen.
Starters:
Anderson
Eyanson
Cowan
Relievers on the weekend:
Evans (closer)
Shores
Schmidt
Benge
Rizy
Williams
Ware
Primeaux
Noot
Starters:
Anderson
Eyanson
Cowan
Relievers on the weekend:
Evans (closer)
Shores
Schmidt
Benge
Rizy
Williams
Ware
Primeaux
Noot
This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 4/16/25 at 3:23 pm to Jack Crevalle
I doubt shores is removed from game 3 starter. This isnt a video game. We need length in the pen. At best, i could see a tba for game 3, allowing for cowan if he isnt needed the first two games. But we shouldnt hesitate to use him in the pen if needed
Posted on 4/16/25 at 3:29 pm to Jack Crevalle
I think we've now gotten to the point we can start to trust more than just Cowan and Evans in the bullpen as Schmidt, Benge, Rizy, Williams have all started to really step up recently and even Mayers has gotten you 6 outs with only 1 free pass recently. Ware even looked promising until yesterday where he had a frustrating appearance with 2 walks getting just 1 out.
We've had to wait until we could somewhat effectively replace Cowan in the pen and I think we can now. Shores also would be in the pen and honestly his stuff just plays WAY better out of the pen than it ever did as a starter.
We've had to wait until we could somewhat effectively replace Cowan in the pen and I think we can now. Shores also would be in the pen and honestly his stuff just plays WAY better out of the pen than it ever did as a starter.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 3:41 pm to josh336
quote:
At best, i could see a tba for game 3, allowing for cowan if he isnt needed the first two games.
I don't see this happening. Remember, you'll also have to hold off on using Shores, as well, if you don't know which one you want to use. It also affects preparation. The plus is that it will be more like post season where some of our pitchers may start AND be called upon to pitch an inning or two out of the pen.
Schmidt, Benge, Evans, and Shores can all give you length out of the pen. We have 5-6 guys who can give you a couple of outs.
We'll have to use both of them as starters in the post season, for sure. Having 4 guys who have starter stuff is a luxury, and we could have 6 of them, as I think Rizy and Schmidt could be weekend starters next year.
I'm not discounting Evans, but I think he is the one guy we absolutely need to stay in the pen.
If those guys continue to pitch well, I don't see a reason not to use Cowan as a starter.
This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 4/16/25 at 3:43 pm to Jack Crevalle
i think there is no denying Cowan is pitching better than shores.
the only question is if we’re better served stacking our 4 best pitchers into the first 2 games of spreading them out across all three.
last weekend I think Cowan should have started saturday. Time to stop babying Shores. if he figures it out in the pen great.
the only question is if we’re better served stacking our 4 best pitchers into the first 2 games of spreading them out across all three.
last weekend I think Cowan should have started saturday. Time to stop babying Shores. if he figures it out in the pen great.
This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 4/16/25 at 3:46 pm to Jack Crevalle
I think it depends on how we pitch game 1 and 2. If you have a one or two run lead when your starter is done for both games you probably want to bring in Evans and Cowan. I wouldn’t trust Schmidt in a close weekend game yet. Hopefully we’re up big both games and then you can save Cowan to start game 3 for the sweep.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 4:07 pm to Jack Crevalle
I still like Shores, LSU needs for him to improve so sticking with it is better for this team long term imo
He just gets a quicker hook now imo, especially if Cowan is available.
Bullpen needs to keep improving and then Cowan CAN be used as a starter perhaps in some of these tourney games in May/June when a 4th starter can be valuable. Maybe he even takes the Sunday starter role by the time tourney play comes around.
But for now we need Shores to improve, and we need Cowan to be available to close the door when needed to secure a series win - which could be out of equation if you lose the first two games and hold him to Sunday.
I also think his effectiveness is the change of pace he offers as contrast to guys like Shores and Anderson. I still think if you trot Cowan out there as a starter, he has a greater chance to get figured out the more he sees a lineup, whether that be 3-4 times around. That could obviously make him less effective, whereas he's very effective as a change of pace when he comes in shorter term right now out of the pen.
He just gets a quicker hook now imo, especially if Cowan is available.
Bullpen needs to keep improving and then Cowan CAN be used as a starter perhaps in some of these tourney games in May/June when a 4th starter can be valuable. Maybe he even takes the Sunday starter role by the time tourney play comes around.
But for now we need Shores to improve, and we need Cowan to be available to close the door when needed to secure a series win - which could be out of equation if you lose the first two games and hold him to Sunday.
I also think his effectiveness is the change of pace he offers as contrast to guys like Shores and Anderson. I still think if you trot Cowan out there as a starter, he has a greater chance to get figured out the more he sees a lineup, whether that be 3-4 times around. That could obviously make him less effective, whereas he's very effective as a change of pace when he comes in shorter term right now out of the pen.
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