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Question for those that oppose the tariffs

Posted on 4/2/25 at 5:46 pm
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
8163 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 5:46 pm
I understand there are many threads on the subject, but it’s difficult to compile the logic as a singular stream of reasonings.

I’d like those that oppose to opine on the following:

Are other country’s tariffs on US products okay and why?

Are cheap goods and labor more important than economic fairness and longterm reliability for the US economy?

How would you level the trading playing field and give the US either fairness or the advantage minus tariffs?

What levers would you pull to make the US economy the best in the world?
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6098 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 5:49 pm to
They were nonexistent during his first term when he implemented them. So odd how the media jumps on tariffs bad this time and then people start piling on. Never saw one negative comment about them his first term.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15703 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 5:49 pm to
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Are other country’s tariffs on US products okay and why?


Those tariffs are (D)ifferent
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 5:52 pm to
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The same thing Republicans believed until 2016

Competition. More competition.
Posted by TigerAttorney
Member since Nov 2017
4541 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 5:52 pm to
The same multinational corporations that own the channels that the news are on, are the ones pushing the narrative that tariffs are bad. They are bad for globalism. Good for a strong USA.

People need to get their head out their arse.
This post was edited on 4/2/25 at 5:53 pm
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
14462 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 5:54 pm to
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What levers would you pull to make the US economy the best in the world?


Who has the best economy in the world?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 5:55 pm to
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Who has the best economy in the world?




Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16337 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

Are other country’s tariffs on US products okay and why? Are cheap goods and labor more important than economic fairness and longterm reliability for the US economy? How would you level the trading playing field and give the US either fairness or the advantage minus tariffs? What levers would you pull to make the US economy the best in the world?



Tarriffs are fine as long as people are okay with costs increasing on THE product being taxed. We have been unfairly tarriffed by other countries. We should fight back.

America is addicted to Cheap goods. we have unfair labor laws that makes production disadvantageous here which is why companies have gone overseas to have goods produced.

Leveling the playing field is a long arduous process. Tarrifs can help but the next president might disagree and change it all back.

Lower the minimum wage. Change the work visa program to make it viable for certain industries. Look into what is require to hire a visa worker. It’s insane.
Reduce regulations especially the emissions requirements which moves manufacturing to other countries with lower regulations. Do not join the paris accord or any other contrived environmental scheme.

Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
20988 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 5:57 pm to
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SlidellCajun


What he said. ^
Posted by WestSideTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
5244 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 6:12 pm to
Just seems like too much too fast. I’m not so much worried about us against the world (all at once mind you) I just worry most Americans won’t have the stomach for it.



But so many won’t.



Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
8163 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 6:20 pm to
Agreed.

My main concern is the American willingness to see this through and hold the line without panicking.

Someone said in another thread too many Americans are economically illiterate and won’t process this strategy in a rational way.

Like everything else , it’s already politicized and not being analyzed calmly and intelligently.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
20988 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 6:26 pm to
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I just don’t get it. I don’t get why it’s conservative because it certainly isn’t. It’s not to protect any particular industry.


Simply put, the point is to leverage tariffs to engineer actual fair trade deals.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
8163 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 6:27 pm to
Try answering each one of the questions in the op.

I’m interested in your response for each. Not an overall platitude or philosophy.

Answer each one with your thoughts on the subject.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
20988 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 6:27 pm to
How does
quote:

I know it’s only happening because the government wants to jack up the price of everything and make everyday life virtually unaffordable.
correlate to
quote:

So they can sell you on accepting a digital dollar and impose a social credit score
???
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5961 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 6:29 pm to
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Try answering each one of the questions in the op.


Maybe you should try answering the question "who has the best economy in the world" that was previously asked. Just for a baseline.
This post was edited on 4/2/25 at 6:30 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173381 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 6:29 pm to
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Never saw one negative comment about them his first term.

Then you have serious memory problems.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6967 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 6:32 pm to
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The same thing Republicans believed until 2016


We still believe in competition. Right now, we are competing with tariffs.



High tariffs were a means not only of protecting infant industries, but of generating revenue for the federal government. They were also a mainstay of the Republican Party, which dominated the Washington political scene after the Civil War.

Try again Roger
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
14462 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 6:33 pm to
quote:

BCreed1


You're a Michael Moore Democrat
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 6:33 pm to
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We still believe in competition.


Absolutely not. You want to protect these industries you hate yet we have bailed out far too often, which will stifle innovation.

Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6967 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 6:34 pm to
The reversion of Congress to Republican control during the First World War and the 1920 election of Republican Warren Harding to the presidency signaled an end to the experiment with lower tariffs. To provide protection for American farmers, whose wartime markets in Europe were disappearing with the recovery of European agricultural production, as well as U.S. industries that had been stimulated by the war, Congress passed the temporary Emergency Tariff Act in 1921, followed a year later by the Fordney-McCumber Tariff Act of 1922. The Fordney-McCumber Tariff Act raised tariffs above the level set in 1913; it also authorized the president to raise or lower a given tariff rate by 50% in order to even out foreign and domestic production costs.
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