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re: Question for those that oppose the tariffs
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:09 pm to Pandy Fackler
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:09 pm to Pandy Fackler
quote:
I don't oppose tariffs as much as I oppose anything that fricks with my money, and right now this tariff bullshite is fricking with my money.
Now just like everyone else, I don’t have a choice but to sit with this shite and wait it out. Every arm chair poli-board economist has an opinion on this stuff and wether or not it's a good thing. Well none of us really know and neither do most of the experts, because they can't agree either.
But here's what I do know and it's really the only thing that I know. My investment portfolio is losing money, and I don't like that shite one fricking bit.
We'll see how it shakes out.
You sound like your investment portfolio is for short term gain. IF that's true you are dumber than your post. Suck it up buttercup.
For your portfolio sake you better hope America regains the dominance and respect libtards threw away
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Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:09 pm to Figgy
quote:
Here’s a study signed off on by around 30 trade organizations and they aren’t sugar coating things:
So I read some of this.
It says those organizations sponsored the study. So it’s not like they did the study, the two authors did.
And I get to a part when they are talking about steel prices.
They are using prices from peak 2023 which were inflated during an inflationary period. Those steel prices actually came back down by 37%.
So I kind of question the relevance of data like this if costs of these things fluctuate. Especially when assessing the cost to build a ship.
This post was edited on 4/2/25 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:12 pm to prplngldtigr
Are other country’s tariffs on US products okay and why?
A: Depends, all countries should do whats in favor of their citizens. Poorer countries relative to US should impose tariffs on the few industries that they are impacted. In a rich country like US, it actually HURTs us to impose tariffs because were a net CONSUMER.
Are cheap goods and labor more important than economic fairness and longterm reliability for the US economy?
A: I think its fair to say the US economy in terms of GDP is not hurting from cheaper sources of goods/labor AND the average citizen is actually benefiting from this.
How would you level the trading playing field and give the US either fairness or the advantage minus tariffs?
A: Were already in an advantageous position? We have the best service industry in the world which outweighs manufacturing AND we're able to take advantage of other countries low cost of labor to our advantage?
What levers would you pull to make the US economy the best in the world?
A: Weird question, the bottom 10% of US citizens can afford iphones. In Asia, an Iphone is a month's salary.
A: Depends, all countries should do whats in favor of their citizens. Poorer countries relative to US should impose tariffs on the few industries that they are impacted. In a rich country like US, it actually HURTs us to impose tariffs because were a net CONSUMER.
Are cheap goods and labor more important than economic fairness and longterm reliability for the US economy?
A: I think its fair to say the US economy in terms of GDP is not hurting from cheaper sources of goods/labor AND the average citizen is actually benefiting from this.
How would you level the trading playing field and give the US either fairness or the advantage minus tariffs?
A: Were already in an advantageous position? We have the best service industry in the world which outweighs manufacturing AND we're able to take advantage of other countries low cost of labor to our advantage?
What levers would you pull to make the US economy the best in the world?
A: Weird question, the bottom 10% of US citizens can afford iphones. In Asia, an Iphone is a month's salary.
This post was edited on 4/2/25 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:14 pm to Bayou
quote:
You sound like your investment portfolio is for short term gain. IF that's true you are dumber than your post. Suck it up buttercup.
For your portfolio sake you better hope America regains the dominance and respect libtards threw away
Spoken like a garden variety a-hole with a "workin' man's Phd" who's counting on disability for his retirement plan.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:14 pm to Pandy Fackler
[quote]I look at mine every single day and I don't like what I'm seeing.[/quote]
You need anxiety meds if you're that glued to your investment. If you are truly THAT freaked over the short term you may want to find a different investment but if you don't want to do that you need to chill the frick out.
You need anxiety meds if you're that glued to your investment. If you are truly THAT freaked over the short term you may want to find a different investment but if you don't want to do that you need to chill the frick out.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:15 pm to Pandy Fackler
quote:
Spoken like a garden variety a-hole with a "workin' man's Phd" who's counting on disability for his retirement plan.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:17 pm to Bayou
quote:
You need anxiety meds if you're that glued to your investment. If you are truly THAT freaked over the short term you may want to find a different investment but if you don't want to do that you need to chill the frick out.
The government won't save you man. I know that's what you're wanting but it won't happen. You have nothing to lose, do you?
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:18 pm to frogtown
quote:
Good. You should focus on spending. You can focus on trade by keying on what we do best...agriculture, energy, and tech. After that, key on manufacturing .
You just basically laid out trumps plan. Good job my man!!!
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:18 pm to Bayou
"Just because you don't immediately see it doesn't mean it isn't happening"
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:19 pm to fareplay
The bottom 10% cannot afford iPhones. The taxpayers subsidize half the population in some way with an entitlement.
The taxpayer foots so much of the bill that the bottom 10% buy iPhones. It’s not because they can afford iPhones.
Thank you for answering the questions!
The taxpayer foots so much of the bill that the bottom 10% buy iPhones. It’s not because they can afford iPhones.
Thank you for answering the questions!
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:20 pm to prplngldtigr
Yes they can, and especially with subsidies. Other countries cant even afford to do that.
Also I misspoke, in Asia, iphone is a months salary for a middle class person.
Also I misspoke, in Asia, iphone is a months salary for a middle class person.
This post was edited on 4/2/25 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:22 pm to fareplay
quote:The bottom 10% are heavily subsidized by the government, that’s why.
the bottom 10% of US citizens can afford iphones. In Asia, an Iphone is a month's salary.
As far as Asia, if an iPhone is a month’s salary, that’s not that bad. Aren’t new iPhones like $1,200?
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:22 pm to Warboo
quote:
You just basically laid out trumps plan. Good job my man!!!
No. Focus on improving manufacturing without taxing American consumers. It can be done.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:22 pm to fareplay
It’s not “affording” something when the funds you use to purchase it, should have went towards your utilities.
I pay all you bills, your healthcare, your housing, your food…and you can “afford” an iPhone.
Nah.
I pay all you bills, your healthcare, your housing, your food…and you can “afford” an iPhone.
Nah.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:23 pm to prplngldtigr
their government actually has free healthcare too and yet dont have the money to subsidize iphones
You have to really understand how much of a better position you and i are in relative to someone in asia, ive been to
Korea
Japan
China
Thailand
Malaysia
Vietnam
Singapore
Laos
Indonesia
We REALLLLLY have it good
You have to really understand how much of a better position you and i are in relative to someone in asia, ive been to
Korea
Japan
China
Thailand
Malaysia
Vietnam
Singapore
Laos
Indonesia
We REALLLLLY have it good
This post was edited on 4/2/25 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:31 pm to fareplay
We have it amazing.
Those places have governments, yes?
Those places have investments?
Economies?
Why not?
Those places have governments, yes?
Those places have investments?
Economies?
Why not?
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:32 pm to atlgamecockman
quote:
What the Administration appears to be calling a "97% tariff" by Cambodia is in reality the fact that we export 97% less stuff to Cambodia than they export to us.
Please tell me you were just joking or it was satire with this post. If not, never post in an economic or trade discussion again.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:33 pm to prplngldtigr
What you talkin about? Why are we hurting Americans? So that an average Cambodian can save $10 on something they could never afford?
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:36 pm to fareplay
How are we hurting Americans?
Im American. I’m not hurting.
I know Americans. None said “hurting”.
You hurting? Where you hurting?
Im American. I’m not hurting.
I know Americans. None said “hurting”.
You hurting? Where you hurting?
This post was edited on 4/2/25 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:36 pm to prplngldtigr
I agree with tariffs but I don't think the public has the stomach to swallow the initial impact.
Americans are addicted to free cheap stuff.
Other countries are ripping us off. It's a bad deal for us, yes. No consumer society is sustainable. You have to produce and manufacture domestically.
I'm not sure America will see this through. I hope so, but I could see it all being repealed before any positive impact is felt.
Americans are addicted to free cheap stuff.
Other countries are ripping us off. It's a bad deal for us, yes. No consumer society is sustainable. You have to produce and manufacture domestically.
I'm not sure America will see this through. I hope so, but I could see it all being repealed before any positive impact is felt.
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