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Anyway to tell if someone is on the juice?
Posted on 3/8/25 at 9:40 am
Posted on 3/8/25 at 9:40 am
I've been training/lifting consistently for years and never use any supplements other than the occasional protein shake. However, I see guys in my gym that tell me they've been "powerlifting" for 2-3 years that are lifting much more weight than me. I understand that age, genetics, and other things factor into this. I am just curious as to how much weight people can truly lift without being on steroids? I really don't want to ever feel the need to start using the juice, but I feel like I am falling behind 
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Posted on 3/8/25 at 9:54 am to CerRegKnockoutArtist
Deer antler spray Bro.
No idea either how to tell
No idea either how to tell
Posted on 3/8/25 at 9:55 am to CerRegKnockoutArtist
You have to ask to see their peen. If it's tiny then they are most likely on the juice. It's not foolproof but it's highly accurate.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 9:56 am to CerRegKnockoutArtist
If they’re lifting more than you, they’re on gear. It’s science.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 10:23 am to CerRegKnockoutArtist
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Anyway to tell if someone is on the juice?
Not sure if this is a serious question or not but I'll play along.
One way to tell is disproportionate trap and delt growth compared to other body parts.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 10:37 am to CerRegKnockoutArtist
Personally, everyone at my gym roughly my age or older who looks better and/or lifts heavier than me is obviously on gear.
All kidding aside(and slightly changing subjects), there's definitely a TRT look that I associate w/ older guys who were never fit and just starting hitting up the clinic - V-shaped torso w/ chicken legs, veiny biceps without any shoulder development, enlarged forehead w/ a strained/weathered face (see RFK Jr), etc. Also noticeable - a tendency to corner every 16-25 year old at the gym and give bogus advice on technique, exercise selection and rep schemes.
All kidding aside(and slightly changing subjects), there's definitely a TRT look that I associate w/ older guys who were never fit and just starting hitting up the clinic - V-shaped torso w/ chicken legs, veiny biceps without any shoulder development, enlarged forehead w/ a strained/weathered face (see RFK Jr), etc. Also noticeable - a tendency to corner every 16-25 year old at the gym and give bogus advice on technique, exercise selection and rep schemes.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 11:02 am to CerRegKnockoutArtist
Like abusing juice or using an appropriate therapy protocol?
Posted on 3/8/25 at 11:02 am to NWHoustonTiger
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enlarged forehead
I admit I’ve been skipping forehead day.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 11:09 am to CerRegKnockoutArtist
For instance I use as prescribed, 200 mg/ml of test cypionate once a week (I don’t have any acne or noticeable side effects other than expected lower sperm count)
I’ve been on this amount since December , I initially started with 125 in April 2024, then 160, 180. I feel close to optimal in this amount so I don’t see myself needing much more. Maybe I haven’t taken enough photos but I haven’t seen an incredible change in my physique but am tolerating more volume weight training and increased strength
I don’t think anyone would know I’m taking TRT other than me informing them
I’ve been on this amount since December , I initially started with 125 in April 2024, then 160, 180. I feel close to optimal in this amount so I don’t see myself needing much more. Maybe I haven’t taken enough photos but I haven’t seen an incredible change in my physique but am tolerating more volume weight training and increased strength
I don’t think anyone would know I’m taking TRT other than me informing them
Posted on 3/8/25 at 11:11 am to lsucoonass
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I don’t think anyone would know I’m taking TRT other than me informing them
I highly doubt that. The 40 something’s on trt in the gym stick out like a sore thumb
Posted on 3/8/25 at 12:57 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I was red with vascularity like the liver king then yeah but I’m not
Posted on 3/8/25 at 2:16 pm to CerRegKnockoutArtist
Trt is so readily available now does it even matter?
Big shoulders means you are on juice?
What kinda gyms do you people go to?
There really isn’t a way to tell 100%. Everyone is different. I don’t see why this even matters? I’d strongly advise against using steroids (not talking about trt) unless you make money off your body. Play in the NFL? Juice all you want. To me it’s more fun to train naturally anyway.
Big shoulders means you are on juice?
What kinda gyms do you people go to?
There really isn’t a way to tell 100%. Everyone is different. I don’t see why this even matters? I’d strongly advise against using steroids (not talking about trt) unless you make money off your body. Play in the NFL? Juice all you want. To me it’s more fun to train naturally anyway.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 2:54 pm to CerRegKnockoutArtist
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I am just curious as to how much weight people can truly lift without being on steroids?
That's so dependent on genetics.
I doubt I could ever lift more than 280-300 on bench. I could squat 400+ in HS, and even if I put 315 on the bar right now as someone who just lifts with dumbbells, it would feel easy.
My buddy benches 315 for reps easy, but can't squat more than 3 plates to save his life even with training legs.
That's got everything to do with our genetics setting an upper limit for us. If my buddy started to squat 450, I'd think something was up. Likewise, if I started throwing up 3 plates easy on bench, I'm probably enhancing.
I think the best course of action is to not worry about it. Who cares? Much like Ozempic, they know if they are doing it.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 5:37 pm to CerRegKnockoutArtist
Yes.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 5:39 pm to Odysseus32
Worked out most of my life. Never felt like the gym was a competition. I could care less what someone else is lifting. We all have different fitness goals.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 5:55 pm to CerRegKnockoutArtist
You got what you got. Always someone bigger, stronger, faster. Natural or not..
Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:00 pm to RandySavage
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You have to ask to see their peen. If it's tiny then they are most likely on the juice.
shite, I’m juicing and didn’t even know it!
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:38 pm to NWHoustonTiger
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All kidding aside(and slightly changing subjects), there's definitely a TRT look that I associate w/ older guys who were never fit and just starting hitting up the clinic - V-shaped torso w/ chicken legs, veiny biceps without any shoulder development, enlarged forehead w/ a strained/weathered face (see RFK Jr), etc. Also noticeable - a tendency to corner every 16-25 year old at the gym and give bogus advice on technique, exercise selection and rep schemes.
plenty of these cats at my gym ..... Very easy to spot 
Posted on 3/8/25 at 11:51 pm to CerRegKnockoutArtist
I can tell in two seconds after looking at them. They have a bulbous look, and if do it for years start to have a caveman look
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:57 am to NWHoustonTiger
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enlarged forehead w/ a strained/weathered face
Everyone I know on TRT looks this way.
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