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I’m convinced that one of the worst things to ever befall this country fiscally is….

Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:25 am
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
61347 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:25 am
Companies taking money out of people’s paychecks throughout the year in order to cover their taxes.

If Americans had to actually cut a big fat check every year in order to cover the amount of money they entrust to the government every year solely to run this government for the people, they might realize that it is their money, not the government’s money, and so corruption and wildly spending of our money on insane crap, laundering money, and skimming off the top would cause them to lose their ever loving minds in rage over it all, and real substantive lasting change would take place. It actually would have taken place a long time ago.

Instead, most Americans never see that money in their bank accounts, and so never realize that it’s their money that the government is being so insanely irresponsible with. Same goes for the debt that is hung around every American’s neck from birth in our national debt.

If Americans ever came to the realization that those dollars equate to sweat from their own brow, they’d have a completely different mindset on all of this corruption and government hand outs to anyone who asks for it and big hearted politicians dole out on our behalf.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
13399 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:26 am to
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If Americans ever came to the realization that those dollars equate to sweat from their own brow, they’d have a completely different mindset on all of this corruption and government hand outs to anyone who asks for it and big hearted politicians dole out on our behalf.


Correct!
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22463 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:29 am to
They would never allow it for two reasons.

1. So many people wouldn’t pay anything because they spent it.

2. If people saw how much of their money was being stolen for real, politicians would be in a worse spot than being on the wrong side of the French Revolution.

Stealing small sums each paycheck allows the gov to have more money sooner and keep the masses from rioting.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38714 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:30 am to
Absolutely.

Payroll withholding has normalized the thought in people's minds that money is the government's.

It also has pointed out how financially illiterate most Americans are. Look at people's reactions when they "get money back!" when they file their taxes. No, dummy, you just gave Uncle Sam an interest free loan with your money.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38834 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:30 am to
It would be a shite show. I bet half wouldn't be able to pay it come tax season
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
79757 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:31 am to
quote:

1. So many people wouldn’t pay anything because they spent it.



Exactly why taxes should be collected at the point of sale when the buyer has the money.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56595 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:32 am to
Most Americans are so
Stupid that they look at it as a way of saving Christmas money. They get a little check back and love it. This is a nation of fools!
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27115 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:32 am to
quote:

If Americans had to actually cut a big fat check every year


Q) What about the 47% that pay no taxes today...how are they going to feel?

A) Answer - about the same because they have no tax pain
This post was edited on 3/3/25 at 9:33 am
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
13399 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:32 am to
quote:

I bet half wouldn't be able to pay it come tax season


Less than half. Much less. We all know people who treat tax time like Christmas and Uncle Sam is Santa Claus.

It would definitely start people wondering where that money goes, though.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
13399 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:33 am to
quote:

Q) What about the 47% that pay no taxes today...how are they going to feel? A) Answer - about the same because they have no tax pain


Nah... they'll be pissed they can't book a cruise or a disney vacation.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43858 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:51 am to
quote:

If Americans had to actually cut a big fat check every year in order to cover the amount of money they entrust to the government every year solely to run this government for the people, they might realize that it is their money, not the government’s money, and so corruption and wildly spending of our money on insane crap, laundering money, and skimming off the top would cause them to lose their ever loving minds in rage over it all, and real substantive lasting change would take place. It actually would have taken place a long time ago.



Yep.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17408 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:51 am to
Dave Ramsey 101
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85503 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:53 am to
women voting and income tax
Posted by 2 Jugs
Saint Amant
Member since Feb 2018
2297 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:58 am to
I read somewhere that the author of the bill said his biggest regret was establishing payroll withholding.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
23271 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Stealing small sums each paycheck allows the gov to have more money sooner and keep the masses from rioting.





Correct
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116648 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:27 am to
quote:

2. If people saw how much of their money was being stolen for real, politicians would be in a worse spot than being on the wrong side of the French Revolution.

A compromise. Make it a law that the money withheld for taxes must be printed on paychecks LARGER than the value going to the worker's account. My wife turned from a moderate to an extreme right winger when we were dating and I showed her the fine print of her check showing money being removed by the govt.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9538 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:31 am to
quote:

What about the 47% that pay no taxes today...how are they going to feel?


Those folks still pay sales tax, FICA taxes, registration fees for their cars.

They just pay no income tax.

Why do y'all continue to lie to make your points?

quote:

Answer - about the same because they have no tax pain


But they do as they pay other taxes but not income tax.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112046 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:34 am to
Yes.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
26023 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:39 am to
I would add make tax day Oct 15 instead of Apr 15, three weeks before the Federal elections.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14361 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:47 am to
And if people knew the social security and Medicare their employer pay on their behalf as well……
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