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Trump looks to end carried interest tax loophole, hitting Wall Street’s wealthiest

Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:49 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:49 pm
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Trump looks to end a controversial tax loophole that has enriched Wall Street’s wealthiest for years
by Christian Hetzner
February 7, 2025


A little-known provision in the tax code allows private equity managers and hedge fund speculators to treat their earnings not as income but as capital gains, allowing them to cut their tax burden by roughly half. But previous attempts to crack down on the practice failed as Wall Street whales like Blackstone’s Steven Schwarzman compared an attack to the Nazi blitzkrieg.
President Donald Trump is mounting another effort to eliminate a controversial loophole that has long allowed Wall Street’s überwealthy to evade millions of dollars in taxes every year.

At stake is a little-known provision known as “carried interest” that benefits private equity managers, hedge fund speculators, and other investment professionals.

It allows them to treat personal earnings not as income in the legal sense but as capital gains—subject to a far lower bracket that can halve their tax burden.

Ever since Wall Street’s bankers were bailed out of their high-risk bets that triggered the global financial crisis, politicians like Barack Obama have taken aim at this loophole.

And even Trump, during his first run for the presidency, argued billionaire speculators were “getting away with murder” thanks to this peculiarity.

This latest attempt to crack down on the practice comes amid a broader tax relief plan the administration is trying to push through Congress at a sensitive time when the country’s finances are already strained.

The package includes an extension to Trump’s signature 2017 tax cut, which is due to sunset at the end of this year if new legislation is not passed.

“This will be the largest tax cut in history for middle-class working Americans. The president is committed to working with Congress to get this done,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters on Thursday, defending the package.
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Lastly, success in closing the carried-interest loophole is anything but guaranteed.

If there has been one economic policy on Capitol Hill that enjoys bipartisan consensus, it was that this tax break for ultrawealthy speculators, who are well-known for generously donating to political campaigns, can be attacked but must never actually be touched.

As a result, each and every time an attempt has been made to deprive Wall Street of its coveted tax loophole—including Trump’s own 2017 tax cut—any references that might follow through mysteriously vanish from the final bill.

In fact, Wall Street famously felt so strongly about retaining this boon that Steven Schwarzman, the CEO of Blackstone, once compared the very idea of eliminating it to nothing less than the Nazi blitzkrieg.

In comments the private equity speculator later was forced to walk back, he scathed: “It’s like when Hitler invaded Poland in 1939.”

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Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:03 pm to
Self employed. Can I get away with amending my taxable earnings as capital gains instead of income?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87359 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:04 pm to
So no tax cuts for the 1%

This has to be gearing up for some type of low Biz Tax and flat income tax no?
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13877 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:06 pm to
Might lose a few GOP house members in NY and NJ if this provision is in there. The hedge fund lobby is powerful. I'm on the fence as to whether it should be continued or not. On net, it probably reduces investment, but so much PE investment this day and age is BS to begin with.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:09 pm to
Unpossible; I was told that Drumph was hellbent on protecting the rich; especially at the expense of the common man
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
24891 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:09 pm to
Which brings me back to my long help belief. Income tax should be a flat tax if it exist. NO exceptions. Not tax breaks, no deductions.

And

I don't give a F how you made your money. If you made money via dividend or from an employer it should be treated the same.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
14513 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:14 pm to
Trump is going to have the democrats come out as protectors of the Uber rich by having them declare it unfairly puts a burden upon them
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:19 pm to
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democrats come out as protectors of the Uber rich by having them declare it unfairly puts a burden upon them
That actually was the Dem position when Obama was taxing the hell out of "rich people"
Posted by TriStateAreaFootball
Member since Dec 2024
1032 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:20 pm to
I was told he hated the middle class and didn’t want wealthy people to pay any taxes at all.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
25474 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:22 pm to
Haven't the left rained on Trump for making rich people wealthier??

Man this is going to be a long 4 years for Democrats. And a short 4 years for us regular people.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
56835 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:27 pm to
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But previous attempts to crack down on the practice failed as Wall Street whales like Blackstone’s Steven Schwarzman compared an attack to the Nazi blitzkrieg

Trump could make an agency to make hedge fund guys pay their taxes and call the building the “hall of cost”
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
32975 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:30 pm to
JD should be looking for career opportunities for Jan. 29 and beyond because his hedgefund/ VC masters like Thiel are not going to like this.
This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 1:31 pm
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
7383 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:31 pm to
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Which brings me back to my long help belief. Income tax should be a flat tax if it exist. NO exceptions. Not tax breaks, no deductions. And I don't give a F how you made your money. If you made money via dividend or from an employer it should be treated the same.


I know that most people on this board know this, but it begs repeating for the low information OT types lurking...taxes are the way they are for control reasons. When you have the ability to pick winners and losers in the tax game, you have incredible power and influence. The GOP doesnt wanna give up this power either
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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87359 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:32 pm to
Good lord you are just such a terrible and dumb poster
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
18361 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:32 pm to
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I don't give a F how you made your money. If you made money via dividend or from an employer it should be treated the same.

What if it came from USAID?
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:33 pm to
If he was serious about this he could make it happen - find a provision that affects the middle class and declare that the IRS would interpret it to mean half of what it means, cutting their tax burden by 50%, then issue a blanket pardon to all of those tax payers, and tell Congress that will stop when they end this loophole.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35030 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:33 pm to
"No, those are the good billionaires. When we said eat the rich we meant only the right leaning rich."
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79271 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:35 pm to
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Unpossible; I was told that Drumph was hellbent on protecting the rich; especially at the expense of the common man



I always hated this line anyway.


Did trump lower taxes for me? Yes.

At that point I don't care who else had their taxes lowered or raised because mine were lower. Plus, rich people still pay way more in taxes than me.

Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
2431 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:56 pm to
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On net, it probably reduces investment, but so much PE investment this day and age is BS to begin with.


It won’t reduce investment. It just might make the fund manager buy a smaller house on Martha’s Vineyard. This should have been closed years ago, they’re making plenty of money.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
24891 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 2:12 pm to
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What if it came from USAID?


Income. Tax it as income. Because that is what it is... Income!
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