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I'm a heart patient on the Carnivore Diet
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:07 am
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:07 am
Around four years ago, I had a sudden heart attack mainly due to a couple decades of smoking a pack of menthols a day & heavy,heavy marijuana use. Since then, I've struggled with depression, brain fog, alcohol abuse, bloating & weight gain. I'll get drunk & binge eat & not even realize it till the next day. I'm trying the Carnivore Diet to:
A) help me quit drinking
B) help lose weight
C) Cure sleep apnea
D) Reduce brain fog
E) Reduce inflammation
After three weeks, so far so good. I've lost 17 lbs & really have had no desire to drink at all. I feel better than I have in a long time. More sustained energy to work out. Aches & pains I used to have are going away.
With that said, all of modern medicine says I'm committing suicide right now. My cardiologist said I was insane. I eat only meat, eggs, butter, tallow, a few spices, & a very sparing amount of dairy. I drink a gallon of water everyday & a couple cups of black coffee.
For the record, I currently have zero blockage & all my labs look pretty normal. I only take a baby aspirin once a day. No other medication.
What do you guys think? Am I killing myself or curing myself from all the toxins I've been ingesting my entire life?
A) help me quit drinking
B) help lose weight
C) Cure sleep apnea
D) Reduce brain fog
E) Reduce inflammation
After three weeks, so far so good. I've lost 17 lbs & really have had no desire to drink at all. I feel better than I have in a long time. More sustained energy to work out. Aches & pains I used to have are going away.
With that said, all of modern medicine says I'm committing suicide right now. My cardiologist said I was insane. I eat only meat, eggs, butter, tallow, a few spices, & a very sparing amount of dairy. I drink a gallon of water everyday & a couple cups of black coffee.
For the record, I currently have zero blockage & all my labs look pretty normal. I only take a baby aspirin once a day. No other medication.
What do you guys think? Am I killing myself or curing myself from all the toxins I've been ingesting my entire life?
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 5:35 am to AlterDWI
The weight loss end is probably more important than the dietary means. Is carnivore the optimal way of becoming "cured" versus any other diet that would cause substantially the same amount of weight loss and lowered inflammation/increased energy? I'm not sure.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:09 am to AlterDWI
Can’t argue with results - you’ve lost weight and aren’t drinking.
Ultimately, adherence matters. So if you don’t stick to it long term, make sure you plan out a transition plan and long term dieting guidelines - don’t want to rebound badly.
Ultimately, adherence matters. So if you don’t stick to it long term, make sure you plan out a transition plan and long term dieting guidelines - don’t want to rebound badly.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:55 am to AlterDWI
Elimination of all the garbage will help you tremendously. Eating nutrient dense foods will keep you satiated and will help lessen the cravings. Keep up the good work!
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:20 am to AlterDWI
I'd wager that the decreased risk from cutting out smoking, drinking, and losing weight will offset the increased risk (if any) from your new diet. I'd keep doing what's working and have your doctor keep an eye on your blood work
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:49 am to AlterDWI
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curing myself from all the toxins I've been ingesting my entire life
This one.
Congrats on the weight loss. The carnivore diet should absolutely help you achieve all of your listed goals. Keep it up!
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:51 am to AlterDWI
Once you meet your weight goals you could cycle to low carb diet that includes some vegetables and fruits. I would think this would make it easier to maintain long term.
My cardiologist is still pushing foods high in cholesterol is causing my LDL to be elevated Butter, eggs, red meat…. I don’t listen to him on diet.
My cardiologist is still pushing foods high in cholesterol is causing my LDL to be elevated Butter, eggs, red meat…. I don’t listen to him on diet.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:44 am to AlterDWI
Carnivore is an excellent way to get to a baseline. 30-60 days of strict carnivore to start and then slowly introduce whole nutrient dense fruits and veggies. In my research that seemed like the best way to keep it sustainable long term
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:32 pm to LSUSports247
quote:
My cardiologist is still pushing foods high in cholesterol is causing my LDL to be elevated Butter, eggs, red meat…. I don’t listen to him on diet.
Tell him there are 2 types of LDL cholesterols that go into that measurement. The one that is impacted by saturated fats does not cause arterial deposits. The one that is impacted by carbohydrate consumption is the one that causes blockages. If you aren't eating carbohydrates your risk of heart disease does not increase statistically just because of the intake of saturated fats. I'm not a dr, but I have read this in multiple places.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 1:44 pm to LSUSports247
quote:
Once you meet your weight goals you could cycle to low carb diet that includes some vegetables and fruits
My plan initially was to get blood work after 90 days & assess after that, but it's been so easy I'm going to try to ride it out to my weight loss goal like you said. Even though I love vegetables, I really haven't had any craving for them so far.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 1:48 pm to LSUfan20005
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Can’t argue with results
This is what I don't get about the critics of the diet.
"You're killing yourself & you don't even know it!!"
I don't see how you look someone in the eye & say this when they tell you they're healthier, happier, & look better. If their diet was so bad, wouldn't their body be telling them that?
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:46 pm to AlterDWI
I also started the diet two weeks ago. My wife wanted to try it because of an autoimmune skin issue and I had a positive cac score last year which puts me in a higher long term risk category for my age. I also have had high cholesterol for several years now. I have gone far down the rabbit hole of Peter attia and Paul saladino trying to figure out what makes sense to me and think I have decided to try the low carb route over statins for the foreseeable future. I figure I will get monitor my cac and consider statins in the future if my score continues to go up. Saladino has a pretty good argument against them in my mind.
Results so far are good on the scale and in the mirror for both of us. No change in wife’s skin issue yet but will see over the next couple months.
Diet hasn’t been as difficult as I thought. Generally feel satisfied. Only complaint is my bowels haven’t fully adjusted yet and still get the squirts. I wouldn’t be able to do it this strict long term so will plan on reintroducing things after the first few months.
Planning on going off the wagon for Christmas though…
Results so far are good on the scale and in the mirror for both of us. No change in wife’s skin issue yet but will see over the next couple months.
Diet hasn’t been as difficult as I thought. Generally feel satisfied. Only complaint is my bowels haven’t fully adjusted yet and still get the squirts. I wouldn’t be able to do it this strict long term so will plan on reintroducing things after the first few months.
Planning on going off the wagon for Christmas though…
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:20 pm to AlterDWI
Good start. You may want to take quality heart supplements. Organic Berberine with Ceylon cinnamon, CoQ10, and CocoaVia. All have a lot of science studies backing them up.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:26 am to AlterDWI
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I don't see how you look someone in the eye & say this when they tell you they're healthier, happier, & look better. If their diet was so bad, wouldn't their body be telling them that?
The main issue with the diet IMO is the lack of fiber. As fiber consumption goes up, risk of all cause mortality goes down (particularly colon cancer). Don’t get me wrong, getting junk out of your diet, weight loss and listening to your body is good. But also you might be setting yourself up for diseases that don’t develop in the short term (particularly colon cancer).
Meta analysis on fiber consumption
LINK
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 6:29 am
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:57 am to AlterDWI
Good for you. Most western medicine completely sucks. As long as you aren’t dying, they don’t care to find the root of the problem. “Here’s a pill to mask the problem”.
I’m working with a functional medicine doctor at the moment.
Good for you to take this into your own hands. I’ve done animal based before and it’s great.
I’m working with a functional medicine doctor at the moment.
Good for you to take this into your own hands. I’ve done animal based before and it’s great.
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 7:58 am
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:12 am to 7flat
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Only complaint is my bowels haven’t fully adjusted yet and still get the squirts.
You might want to eat a bit less fat and introduce some fermented foods into your diet. That should improve your gut microbiome and get your bowels regulated.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 12:24 pm to AlterDWI
The carnivore diet likely has nothing to do with this.
You were previously poisoning yourself. You've stopped poisoning yourself.
That is why you feel so good.
You were previously poisoning yourself. You've stopped poisoning yourself.
That is why you feel so good.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:43 pm to Gings5
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I’m working with a functional medicine doctor at the moment
Who are you working with and how’s it going for youyou so far? Also curious about price.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 4:14 pm to 7flat
quote:
Only complaint is my bowels haven’t fully adjusted yet and still get the squirts.
Personally, adding one serving of fruit solved this for me.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:31 pm to AlterDWI
I reversed severe but pre-fibrosis NAFLD with carnivore. I also have a chronic heart condition that hasn't worsened at all since starting to eat this way.
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