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re: American cities making a come back
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:21 pm to Swagga
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:21 pm to Swagga
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That was absolutely rock bottom as far as I’m concerned.
That says a lot about NOLA. One would think Katrina was rock bottom. But no. It got worse.
Seems like there have been many “rock bottoms” and only feels like it’s improving if the city just stays flat for a year or two and temporary halts its dissent. Meanwhile, never really improving.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:22 pm to Locoguan0
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Detroit contracted so much, and continue to do so. They are literally half the size they were 40 years ago
That's a huge part if it. They don't need the infrastructure they once did because so many people moved away.
But they've also leaned heavily on government subsidies and a lot of money from Dan Gilbert (who owns the Cavs and also has/had a ton of investments in Cleveland) for some renovations of downtown. He also is moving, or has moved, his Quicken HQ from Cleveland to Detroit.
I wonder what his relationship is like with the movers and shakers of Cleveland is like since he is moving so much money to another northern city? Detroit and Cleveland were like the same cities back in the day. One just did automobiles and the other did steel and railroads..
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:23 pm to turnpiketiger
The 3 big C’s in Ohio have all made leaps and bounds to improve the cities.
Columbus with the most growth.
Columbus with the most growth.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:29 pm to Irish Knuckles
Detroit:
Go on Google maps and use the satellite option and see how much urban renewal is there.
Go on Google maps and use the satellite option and see how much urban renewal is there.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:31 pm to au4you
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Metro area has always been strong. The City is thriving right now. I thought the whole entertainment scene downtown would level off after Covid but new stuff is popping up left and right. They are building apartments and condos like crazy, and they seem to filling them up.
I know someone will mention crime, but the majority of it happens in places most normal people will not find themselves.
You are right about a lot of this, but define "thriving." Are there a lot of great restaurants and bars downtown? Sure. But what about the jobs? Many have left the city limits and won't be coming back. What happens when Regions gets sold? And don't get me started on the city's leadership. I agree with you in part on crime, but it's a bigger deal than you are making it out to be. Those "places" you talk about are part of the city.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:33 pm to turnpiketiger
For every city making a comeback, you'll find civil rights activists complaining about it. The ole " YT making it too expensive for fill in the blank" argument.
YT is their code for us, in case you haven't been on the twitterz
YT is their code for us, in case you haven't been on the twitterz
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:34 pm to Locoguan0
There is new investment into the redevelopment of inner city Detroit. I was there in 2015 and I see the change from then to now.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:34 pm to turnpiketiger
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, Pittsburgh,
I didn't go there until about 10-12 years ago to see a Cubs/Pirates series but really enjoyed it and went again a few year later. So not sure if was on the mat and came back but I certainly enjoyed it then.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:39 pm to turnpiketiger
Shreveport
50Cent is pumping money into the economy
50Cent is pumping money into the economy
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:42 pm to Buck Magnum
If 50 does 25% of what he says, it's gotta be considered a win.
Looking at downtown as I was coming across I20 from Bossier City last night, a Sphere and a carousel would look awesome.
Looking at downtown as I was coming across I20 from Bossier City last night, a Sphere and a carousel would look awesome.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:42 pm to turnpiketiger
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Detroit, Pittsburgh, Birmingham and Cleveland
Downtown Cleveland is actually going through some nice changes, but the rest of the city is still bleeding population and is the most violent city in Ohio...even the suburbs are bleeding population, so i wouldn't put Cleveland close to this discussion yet.
Cleveland City Population:
1950 - 914,808
1960 - 876,050
1970 - 750,903
1980 - 573,822
1990 - 505,616
2000 - 478,403
2010 - 396,815
2020 - 372,624
2024 est - 351,397
Population Loss = 563,411
Cleveland Metropolitan Population:
1950 - 1,759,431
1960 - 2,220,050
1970 - 2,419,274
1980 - 2,277,949
1990 - 2,205,069
2000 - 2,202,871
2010 - 2,185,737
2020 - 2,178,825
Population Loss = 240,449
Until population loss stops in both the city proper and the suburbs, i dont know how a city can be considered "making a comeback". Make no mistake, i am rooting for Cleveland as it has a HUGE amenity going for it in the Lake Erie lakefront, but its going to take half a century to turn Cleveland completely around. That's just the truth...
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:43 pm to The Torch
is it sustainable?
what is the intended clientele?
what is the intended clientele?
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:47 pm to Swagga
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NOLA has improved a decent bit since COVID.
That was absolutely rock bottom as far as I’m concerned.
Rock bottom was the Louisiana Pizza Kitchen murders in the 90s. New Orleans had over 450 murders in one year. Brought the best civil servant New Orleans has ever had in Richard Pennington.
This year SO FAR, the trend in murder is down, but it ramps up every summer.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:48 pm to turnpiketiger
Bogalusa, Jackson, Slidell
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:54 pm to North Dallas Tiger
quote:
How about America itself make a comeback, amirite?
Zac Brown supporting the troops and calling out the media
Great show last weekend.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:54 pm to CarpeCyanide
quote:
The 3 big C’s in Ohio have all made leaps and bounds to improve the cities.
Columbus with the most growth.
Columbus is absolutely BOOMING right now and has been for decades. Columbus is about to EXPLODE over the next 3 decades...if that's even imaginable. Cincinnati actually fits the OP narrative more than any city in Ohio. Cincinnati Proper actually has a growing population. Cleveland, while making strides, still has a long way to go.
Cincinnati Population:
2010 - 296,945
2020 - 309,513
That is significant for Cincinnati!!
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:59 pm to Buckeye Backer
quote:
2010 - 296,945
2020 - 309,513
That is significant for Cincinnati!!
As a St Louis city resident, I'd be ecstatic with 13,000 more people living in the city over a decade. Any sort of positive number would be worth celebrating.
The city has been losing population for a long time, like every rsut belt city. The metro area had been staying relatively stable but did drop recently. Which is concerning.
There are positive things happening. We managed to get rid of a Soros-backed prosecutor. We will have the chance to elect a less-bad rep to get rid of Cori Bush. But overall, there is a general lack of leadership in the city and a lack of any regional vision.
Every elected official in every municipality around here is only out for themselves, not even trying to better their specific muni.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:59 pm to turnpiketiger
Uh
Birmingham?
Nah.
Still dangerous and poorly run
Birmingham?
Nah.
Still dangerous and poorly run
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:00 pm to turnpiketiger
Problem is that it only takes a few years of bad policy to kill any such momentum.
NYC and Oakland both made resurgences only to start declining again due to crime after a bunch of leadership issues.
NYC and Oakland both made resurgences only to start declining again due to crime after a bunch of leadership issues.
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