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Are we in a golden era of TV right now?

Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:15 am
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29560 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:15 am
Just watched the last episode of Shogun and it was one of the more gut wrenching hours of TV I’ve seen in a long long time.

Fallout is great. Bear is one of the best things in years. Gentlemen was one of the best spinoffs I’ve ever seen. Halo kinda righted itself. Succession had a great run.

White Lotus. Beef. Only Murders in the Building. Poker Face. Twisted Metal. Barry. Last of Us. Severance. Devs. The Old Man. Stranger Things. Witcher (S1&2.) 3 body problem. Peacemaker. Mare of Easttown. Yellowjackets. House of Dragon. Masters of the Air. What we do in the shadows. Could go on and on.


I can hardly name any movies I’m pumped for comparatively. Maybe MI:8. Not that there aren’t great movies as well, but I’m to a point where I can’t catch up and there’s dozens of shows I haven’t even seen that I randomly stumble across or remember to watch like 1883. i knew it was a thing at the time but I’m just now getting to it. There’s dozens more saved in the list where I could make it 3 years and never catch up.

I feel like there were some solid eras in the late 90s early 00s when Got, BB, Wire, Mad Men, Lost, Sopranos, etc were all airing at the same time, but nothing compared to today.
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 12:20 am
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
36370 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:34 am to
Hell no. Probably 2002-2012

Lost
The Wire
Sopranos
Mad Men
Breaking Bad

To name a few.
Posted by WestSideTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
3863 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:37 am to
The TV comedy is dead. Not sure there can be a golden age without it.

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
66064 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 5:13 am to
Nope. We just left it. I would argue the Golden Era of TV started in the late-90s with the premiere of shows like The Sopranos and The West Wing.

During the period from 1999-2019 you had the following shows premiere that really set the pop culture world on fire:

The Sopranos
The West Wing
Band of Brothers
Six Feet Under
24
The Shield
The Wire
Battlestar Galactica
The Office
Deadwood
Lost
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
How I Met Your Mother
Rome
Avatar: The Last Air Bender
Friday Night Lights
Mad Men
Breaking Bad
The Big Bang Theory
Luther
Sherlock
The Walking Dead
Homeland
Game of Thrones
House of Cards
Orange Is the New Black
Better Call Saul
Black Sails
Stranger Things
The Crown
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 5:19 am
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
5430 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:56 am to
Fallout is not great
Posted by Ignignokt
Member since Dec 2005
3427 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:11 am to
Absolutely not. If anything, the quality over the years has dropped overall. Shogun is an outlier so far. It's harder and harder to find good content imo to invest time in.
Posted by Raoul Stimulato
Hale Bopp Comet
Member since Sep 2022
1338 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:35 am to
Movies > TV

Do you even Jean Eustache month on Criterion, bro?
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
5334 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:59 am to
Don’t think we are the golden era. But we are in an era with more choices than ever, so even if the percentage of really good shows is low, there are still lots of them out there.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
11240 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:11 am to
No. Network tv and sitcoms are way down and quality content is stretched over multiple streaming platforms. I feel like we are in more of a something's got to give scenario where we start witnessing some bankruptcies and consolidation.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
18341 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:10 am to
The Golden Era of TV was before cable and numerous networks.

Sure you have more choices now but most of it is unwatchable trash. Back in the day the Big 3 networks would spend the entire corporate budget on at most 21 shows a year (7p-10p x 7days/week) and the season was about 9 months long (holidays and other specials filled the calendar). Minor characters and guests would be A -list movie and theater stars, very little weak acting. Writers had to exhibit top quality as the competition was fierce.

The limited availability for delivery made the competition for a paycheck tough. Only the best of the best made it.
Posted by BhamTigah
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Member since Jan 2007
14968 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

Are we in a golden era of TV right now?


That depends. Are you a quantity or quality guy?
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
8451 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
16179 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 3:38 pm to
TV now is a shitshow compared to what I grew up with and have enjoyed watching over the years.

So many shows that were popular in the past could not be made today with the amount of "this is so insensitive" people in the world.

Watch almost any older western or popular sit-com from years ago on TV today and they usually come with some disclaimer/warning that "The material depicted in this show may be sensitive to some viewers and depict an antiquated view of the world" or some such similar crap.
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 3:43 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
34345 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

Are we in a golden era of TV right now?
Eh. I REALLY struggle to find the next decent show to watch that I'm excited about (I've reverted to watching old seasons of Survivor lol).

It seems like there's always just enough wrong with a show to make it not worthy. Like maybe it's been just algoed enough to make it too broad.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
78739 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 11:29 pm to
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Last of Us


Was shite.
Posted by GasMan
north Mississippi
Member since Sep 2003
1121 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 6:10 am to
Hell I'm just getting to NYPD Blue and The Big Bang Theory.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20956 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Are we in a golden era of TV right now?

No

There's so much NOT right with TV right now.
quote:

Just watched the last episode of Shogun and it was one of the more gut wrenching hours of TV I’ve seen in a long long time.

Fallout is great. Bear is one of the best things in years. Gentlemen was one of the best spinoffs I’ve ever seen. Halo kinda righted itself. Succession had a great run.

White Lotus. Beef. Only Murders in the Building. Poker Face. Twisted Metal. Barry. Last of Us. Severance. Devs. The Old Man. Stranger Things. Witcher (S1&2.) 3 body problem. Peacemaker. Mare of Easttown. Yellowjackets. House of Dragon. Masters of the Air. What we do in the shadows. Could go on and on.
You named shows, some of which lots of people think suck. Very few that that the consensus is they're very good.
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but I’m to a point where I can’t catch up and there’s dozens of shows I haven’t even seen that I randomly stumble across or remember to watch
If it were a GREAT show, don't you think you'd have remembered to keep watching? I mean, seriously. If it's something I look forward to, I make a point of seeing it.

Now, on to some of the other issues with TV today; your list goes across several different services. Netflix, Prime, Max, Paramount, Apple, Peacock etc. That's not even counting the Disney+ shows, some of which (Mandalorian, Andor, Loki etc) are considered very good too. So you have shows spread across a multitude of services, some of which might be the only thing you will watch on that service. I'm not paying for all of them, I don't think it's a great experience to binge something in a week and then wait over a year for the next season.

And then we have length of season- 10 episodes, if you're lucky. Network TV would give you 25+ a season. Call it "filler" if you want, but if I love a show, I don't mind having a new episode every week. It's kinda like having cupcake games in college football; there's no drama when LSU plays Grambling, but I do get to watch LSU play, so that's better than no game.

Another thing I'd mention- the best currently to me right now is Shogun and Fallout. Shogun is a remake of a miniseries, Fallout is closely based on a game. There's nothing wrong with either show, but they're also not original concepts. Remaking a miniseries in particular- today's format IS miniseries, so they basically just dusted the old script off and reshot it. It doesn't go deeper, or do anything new (it can't if it is to stay true to the book). Again, it's done well, and I like it. But I've already seen it; and it's set in 16th Century Japan. There isn't something that happens that you couldn't portray back in 1980 or whenever the miniseries was made, that modern techniques show better. If anything, I would say some of the offshore scenes were better/more expensive in the original. The lighting was better in the original (the interior scenes are dark in this version).

I would say a "Golden Age" would have multiple shows EVERYONE watches, that are original in idea, that you don't forget about watching the next episode until the season is done.

Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19764 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:25 am to
I would say the golden era was around the end of Sopranos, start of Breaking Bad, start of Game of Thrones. Lost was obviously on during this period also. So basically 2006-2012ish.

Netflix totally changed the game mostly in a good way but I also think the general quality has somewhat taken a dive.

All of these shows are just so far superior than anything we have gotten recently.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 10:27 am
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
28634 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:44 pm to
No

The Golden Era of anything runs through the 80s into the 90s

Dallas
Dynasty
Magnum PI
MASH
WKRP in Cincinnati
Happy Days
The Jeffersons
Dukes of Hazzard
Simon & Simon
Newhart
The A-Team
The Cosby Show
Family Ties
Miami Vice
The Golden Girls
Moonlighting
Night Court
Murder, She Wrote
Taxi
Roseanne
Cheers
Home Improvement
Seinfeld
Friends
ER
Law & Order

2000s brought in a lot of reality and game shows. The golden era was over
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
31536 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

Are we in a golden era of TV right now?


No, but we are in a golden era of video game adaptations into shows.

They used to be a joke, responsible for the absolute shittiest TV and movies.

Now, you have:
Fallout
The Last of Us
Cyberpunk: Edgerunners
Arcane
Castlevania
Witcher S1

Some not as great, but still fun shows as well, like Twisted Metal

There are plenty of misses, sure, but considering how bad video game adaptations used to be this really is its golden age.
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