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"Conservatives" agree to new entitlement program costing hundreds of millions per year

Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:31 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37314 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:31 am
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House Bill 745 would allow families to apply for state grants to spend on private school tuition, uniforms, online classes and more. The publicly funded grants would be available to all families regardless of financial need, including those who already pay for private school. The program is projected to cost about $260 million in 2027, the first year all families are eligible for grants, and would get more expensive as more parents enroll, according to a legislative analysis.


According to PAR, this could quickly get to $500 million per year in NEW spending.

No plan on how to pay for this. By the way, unlike the feds, the state can't deficit spend.

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The state House of Representatives passed the bill Monday 71-32, though not on party lines, as a half dozen Republicans joined Democrats in voting against it and five Democrats joined a host of GOP members in voting for it. It now heads to the Senate for a vote.


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Republicans voting against it were Reps. Joe Stagni, R-Kenner; Neil Riser, R-Columbia, Brett Geymann, R-Lake Charles; Shane Mack, R-Livingston; Larry Bagley, R-Stonewall and Dewitth Carrier, R-Oakdale.


Doesn't Riser also have the bill to kill the income tax? At least we have one good conservative left, I guess.

Now comes the part where all the unintelligent people will scream about how property taxes pay for public schools they don't use, despite the fact that the state collects no property taxes, and no property taxes will be routed to private schools.

This is net new spending, net of kids moving from public to private, in the few instances where that may happen.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
84535 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:37 am to
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According to PAR, this could quickly get to $500 million per year in NEW spending.



Is it new spending or getting the tax money you pay for public schooling back to use at a private school?

I'm assuming this is an issue because public school funding would not be cut by however much is used on this program, but I haven't looked into this much.
Posted by Achilles Hill
Member since Mar 2024
233 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:37 am to
End public schools and have this option for everyone.

Schools should have to compete for students. It should not be the other way around.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 10:39 am
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23387 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:37 am to
Getting your own money back is "entitlement spending"

Lol. The circus never has a day off.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22371 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:43 am to
Good, instead of sending those tax monies to failing public schools, we can transfer that money back to the parents to send their kids somewhere that will actually educate and not indoctrinate.

Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
6214 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:45 am to
The last of my brood will graduate from private school in 2025, so we wouldn’t be affected by this. That aside, I wonder what strings will be attached for the private schools that accept this grant money?
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
2522 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:45 am to
God fobid our tax dollars going to the betterment of American citizens instead of funding endless wars or feeding and housing low iq, uncivilized animals from 3rd world shitholes
Posted by andwesway
Zachary, LA
Member since Jun 2016
1575 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:46 am to
They won't have a way to pay for this in a few years without raising taxes. I guess Jeffy is fine with kicking that can down the road for the next guy to handle though.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11301 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:53 am to
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By the way, unlike the feds, the state can't deficit spend.


Uh like 15% of the muni market are state issued bonds. They absolutely can deficit spend.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
3356 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:01 am to
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This is net new spending, net of kids moving from public to private, in the few instances where that may happen.


The goal is to effectively eliminate public schools, and more importantly, diminish the impact of teacher's unions.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36573 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:20 am to
I think this is a great idea.

If I don’t like the public school option, I can opt out and send my kids to private school.

But I believe they aren’t going far enough. What if I don’t like the neighborhood BREC tennis courts open to me and my family? Couldn’t the state throw in a couple of grand a year so I could join the raquet club?

And Webb and City Park are too crowded. My time is valuable. How about the state giving me about 5K a year to join CCL?

If you aren’t happy with the services that are open to the public shouldn’t we all get better access to private facilities?

Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10631 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:22 am to
It’s the nature of socialism

What was once considered conservative becomes warped.
Like healthcare. In England, no one would consider a private healthcare system. Here, it’s considered a liberal dream to eliminate private health care.

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67297 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:26 am to
While I like the concept of school choice, I don’t think the charter school program has been successful thus far. I fear this will be an even bigger boondoggle, but I will need to see more about this plan.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
75107 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:30 am to
Conservatives always winning
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6484 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:32 am to
This a disingenuous and intellectually dishonest slant on what the bill does.

What the bill actually does is ties a portion of education dollars to children and not to school systems.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
11202 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:33 am to
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Doesn't Riser also have the bill to kill the income tax? At least we have one good conservative left, I guess.


people hoping this happen are in for a big surprise.

Get ready for a repeal of the homestead exemption and major hikes on property taxes, just like every other state that doesn't have an income tax and/or sales tax.

Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12579 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:40 am to
I’m going to take a page out of the Dems playbook and simply state.. I don’t care since I’m going to benefit.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
4598 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 12:18 pm to

Posted by Grigio
Member since May 2023
616 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 12:21 pm to
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 2:57 pm
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14939 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 12:26 pm to
I don't know how you guys argue either side passionately when we have a socialized education system on one hand and an entitlement program on the other. It's government creating a problem and then creating another layer as a solution.

The answer is to undo, not do more.
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