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re: GATOR scholarship bill successfully gets through LA subcommittee

Posted on 3/27/24 at 2:26 am to
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18299 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 2:26 am to
Yep. Easy way for RINOs to walk away from the problems they helped cause in La our entire lives.
Abandon public schools they are responsible for and give $ to the parents to spend as they want.
Wait until Landry finds out 1,000 illegals ++ got $ that went back to Haiti and Honduras.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23810 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 2:42 am to
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This is a voucher program FOR KIDS In other words, what all conservatives have wanted for decades

So now I can open a “school” in a storefront, recruit parents and make cash profit from state handouts running the “school” as a business. Is that really what conservatives want?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14810 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 6:06 am to
My only question is does this open private schools up to government rules? I would think not since the funds are not directly given to the schools.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18299 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 6:11 am to
Sure they probably don’t have any ties.
The private schools taking these current vouchers are worse than the public schools too.
Give away $600 Million and still have the taxpayer burden to run the public schools.
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
2906 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:18 am to
This is going to coat the state about $500 million from what I hear.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1531 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:23 am to
Can’t put lipstick on a pig. Quality schools are due to involved parenting and holding their kids and teachers accountable. The good schools will fall.
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
2403 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:28 am to
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Not this conservative. Free shite is free shite regardless who gets it.


I’ve never understood why conservatives have always wanted vouchers in schools. I’m right wing and yet I think vouchers are fricking garbage and bring the quality of the school down. Voucher students are almost always the ones that cause trouble at schools. They get into fights and are disrespectful to everyone including teachers. Yeah it’s stereotyping, but that was the case with the private high school I went to.
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 7:38 am
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32695 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:29 am to
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It's probably made for the poors, as with everything else.

Yep, I called this shite before the bill made it to committee. The other states don’t limit it to poors, in Louisiana’s bill poors get 80% of the cost per pupil, and non poors only get 55%.

ETA: I don’t see the 80% and 55% directly quoted in the current documentation but it shows that students below 250% of the poverty line would get 7k and those above that would receive 4.8k. Just did the rough math and those numbers work out to the percentages
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 7:41 am
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14810 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:33 am to
I don't like it.
Posted by Lsutigerturner
Member since Dec 2016
5815 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:22 am to
Does this mean you can double dip? And add this to the existing 529pool, or run them simultaneously?
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
2906 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:40 am to
Holy Family in Laffy and St. Aug finna eat.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14580 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:41 am to
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I don’t see the 80% and 55% directly quoted in the current documentation but it shows that students below 250% of the poverty line would get 7k and those above that would receive 4.8k. Just did the rough math and those numbers work out to the percentages


It's in HB745.
quote:

5(2) An amount equivalent to eighty percent of the average state and local
6 allocation per pupil as provided in the minimum foundation program formula for a
7 student from a family with a total income that does not exceed two hundred fifty
8 percent of the federal poverty guidelines.

9 (3) An amount equivalent to fifty-five percent of the average state and local
10 allocation per pupil as provided in the minimum foundation program formula for any
11 other student.



Also looks like current private school students (non-switchers) aren't eligible until the 2027-2028 school year.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124545 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:44 am to
God what a labored acronym.


Try this

Getting
Achievement
To
Our
Readers
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14025 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:48 am to
CONSERVATIVE SOLUTIONS

Edit is this cheese program the same or in addition to the private school voucher program?
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 8:49 am
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
4321 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:52 am to
This is dumb. Here’s my prediction.

1. Parents with kids currently rolled in private (mostly Catholic schools) will get the voucher

2. Those schools will raise tuition roughly in the amount of the voucher, so this will be a short term boon to private schools (mostly Catholic ones).

3. In a few years the program will be deemed to cost too much and the voucher pulled away from all or all but low income parents.

4. The tuition hike will remain.

In conclusion - government spending will inflate costs and the middle to upper middle income folks will be hurt the most.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:54 am to
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According to the state, tens of thousands of students are currently in non-public schools Let's assume it is 20,000 students..
Man it’s way higher

Catholic br
Rummel
Jesuit
Brother Martin
Mount Carmel
Holy cross
Dominican
St. Paul’s
Hannan
SSA
ST. Michael’s


That’s only high schools listed above and right there it’s like 15k
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
16097 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:54 am to
this is the only real Gator

Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14580 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:05 am to
quote:

According to the state, tens of thousands of students are currently in non-public schools Let's assume it is 20,000 students..

It's much higher if this chart is accurate.


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PAR’s analysis assumes, based on the experience of Arizona, that about 4% of public school students would enroll in the ESA program. These students would create a net cost of $39 million. Based on the explosive growth in universal ESA programs as well as the growth of the TOPS college tuition program once income limits were removed, the analysis also assumes that 80% of parents with children in private schools would eventually use ESAs. Little downside exists for those families since those students can stay where they are but with newly obtained state assistance.
Current voucher students are excluded as there wouldn't be a cost difference.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53115 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:08 am to
Why do they always take my money for other peoples kids? Why can’t we get a stipend for responsible childfree adults with some IPAs and board games? Tired of paying for yalls bailout
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112726 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:12 am to
Your analogy doesn’t move the needle. Society would be better off if food stamps meant government bread, beans, and cheese.
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