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re: Dumbasses in House pass Trojan Horse TikTok ban

Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:10 pm to
When Trump was saying it was bad, many agreed it was a national security issue. Now the House says let’s ban it and Trump crawfishes, everyone is like “freedom of speech”. You people would definitely eat Trump’s turds if he told you to.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 12:11 pm
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8349 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:17 pm to
The right to use foreign spyware is not guaranteed by the first amendment.

For any legitimate issues with this bill that do exist, you undermine the argument against all of them with such an obviously dumb take. Don’t be dumb.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
25125 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:18 pm to
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When Trump was saying it was bad, many agreed it was a national security issue. Now the House says let’s ban it and Trump crawfishes, everyone is like “freedom of speech”. You people would definitely eat Trump’s turds if he told you to.


Are you motherfrickers plum retarded or just willfully ignorant?

READ THE frickING BILL

It doesn't just apply to TikTok and will be used against any other website/app they want to

Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22972 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

When Trump was saying it was bad, many agreed it was a national security issue. Now the House says let’s ban it and Trump crawfishes, everyone is like “freedom of speech”. You people would definitely eat Trump’s turds if he told you to.


What a narrow minded approach you have going there.

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57375 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:23 pm to
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It doesn't just apply to TikTok and will be used against any other website/app they want to
Clearly! If not it would be a bill of attainder.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12915 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

doesn't just apply to TikTok and will be used against any other website/app they want to



CCP talking point
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
25125 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:24 pm to
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Josh Hawley
@HawleyMO
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Just remember: the Senate is bought and paid for by Big Tech
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
10760 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:25 pm to
They are enabling the DHS / State Department apparatus that had taken control of our country:

TCN: Uncensored: The National Security State & the Inversion of Democracy

This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 12:34 pm
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12915 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Josh Hawley
@HawleyMO
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1m
Just remember: the Senate is bought and paid for by Big Tech


That's why this bill probably won't pass the Senate
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19385 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:27 pm to
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What exactly is wrong with the bill?

It is anti-freedom
Posted by Veritas
Raleigh, NC
Member since Feb 2005
6268 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:29 pm to
What’s Tiger droppings active monthly user?
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:29 pm to
China is using TikTok the same way we used MTV in the 80's to bring down the Soviet Union, by influencing the youth and culture.

And a lot of you are falling for it.....
Posted by Torqued Pork
Malvern
Member since Sep 2020
3646 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:35 pm to
Here's a tissue.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30223 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:56 pm to
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China is using TikTok the same way we used MTV in the 80's to bring down the Soviet Union, by influencing the youth and culture.

And a lot of you are falling for it.....


Curious, have you used TikTok and if not, how exactly do you think it works?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124174 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:08 pm to
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That appears to me to be wording taken out of context. In context, the reference is to entities "controlled by a foreign adversary." Covered companies are one of the defined entities. At least that's what I'm seeing.

quote:

SEC. 2. PROHIBITION OF FOREIGN ADVERSARY CON7 TROLLED APPLICATIONS.

(a) IN GENERAL.—
(1) PROHIBITION OF FOREIGN ADVERSARY CONTROLLED APPLICATIONS.—It shall be unlawful for an entity to distribute, maintain, or update (or enable the distribution, maintenance, or updating of) a foreign adversary controlled application by carrying out, within the land or maritime borders of the United States, any of the following:
(A) Providing services to distribute, maintain, or update such foreign adversary controlled application (including any source code of such application) by means of a marketplace (including an online mobile application store) through which users within the land or maritime borders of the United States may access, maintain, or update such application.
(B) Providing internet hosting services to enable the distribution, maintenance, or updating of such foreign adversary controlled application for users within the land or maritime borders of the United States.

(g) DEFINITIONS.—In this section:
(1) CONTROLLED BY A FOREIGN ADVERSARY.— The term ‘‘controlled by a foreign adversary’’ means, with respect to a covered company or other entity, that such company or other entity is—
(A) a foreign person that is domiciled in, is headquartered in, has its principal place of business in, or is organized under the laws of a foreign adversary country;
(B) an entity with respect to which a foreign person or combination of foreign persons described in subparagraph (A) directly or indirectly own at least a 20 percent stake; or
(C) a person subject to the direction or control of a foreign person or entity described in subparagraph (A) or (B).
(2) COVERED COMPANY.—
(A) IN GENERAL.—The term ‘‘covered company’’ means an entity that operates, directly or indirectly (including through a parent company, subsidiary, or affiliate), a website, desktop application, mobile application, or augmented or immersive technology application that—
(i) permits a user to create an account or profile to generate, share, and 14 view text, images, videos, real-time commu15 nications, or similar content;
(ii) has more than 1,000,000 monthly active users with respect to at least 2 of the 3 months preceding the date on which a relevant determination of the President is made pursuant to paragraph (3)(B);
(iii) enables 1 or more users to generate or distribute content that can be viewed by other users of the website, desktop application, mobile application, or augmented or immersive technology application; and
(iv) enables 1 or more users to view content generated by other users of the website, desktop application, mobile application, or augmented or immersive technology application.
(B) EXCLUSION.—The term ‘‘covered company’’ does not include an entity that operates a website, desktop application, mobile application, or augmented or immersive technology application whose primary purpose is to allow users to post product reviews, business reviews, or travel information and reviews.

LINK
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 3:06 pm
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7193 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:11 pm to
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TikTok is a hotbed of cultural Marxism, socialist propaganda, and anti-western sentiment, all being pushed by the CCP

A: is called freedom of speech. Gotta respect theirs if I want mine.
B: my algorithm doesn't show me any of that. It's quite the opposite actually.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124174 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:28 pm to
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y algorithm doesn't show me any of that. It's quite the opposite actually.
You don't know WTF your TikTok algorithm does, how it is designed, or why.

e.g.,

Why is the TikTok app not allowed in China?
Why is the Chinese TikTok, Douyin, not available for download through regular app stores outside of mainland China?

You think the algorithms are the same???

Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:31 pm to
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Which part of the bill does this? Sincerely curious, no gotcha.


Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124174 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:34 pm to
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Shepherd88
Are you under the impression the language you highlighted means POTUS can ban any website, or just those "controlled by a foreign adversary"?
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:44 pm to
It sets a dangerous precedent either way. FWIW I didn’t highlight this either, it’s out there via other sources. Lots of corporations have bases set up internationally and could very easily be considered a “foreign adversary.”
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