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re: Give teachers a raise....Nah.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:34 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:34 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
All they do is indoctrination not teaching
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:38 pm to auwaterfowler
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number of students pursuing a degree in education is rapidly declining
You didn't quote a source for this, which means it's probably bullshite.
But you would know it didn't matter, if you'd been around education students. They're not experts in anything, but graduating in education.
If you want to get to the free market side, we should examine why I couldn't teach IT in a Louisiana School, having 15 years of experience, unless I didn't get paid for a year, working for free. Teachers don't want competition, from anywhere.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:46 pm to DevilDogTiger
Performance based on what?
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:48 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
I have been a teacher for the better part of three decades. I don't need a raise. I need for parents to support my efforts to make sure that their children learn. The best outcomes are achieved when parents and teachers work as a team.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:53 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
before they get any raises, they must first sign a pledge not to sleep with students.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:55 pm to Thundercles
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I can't fathom why anyone would want to be a teacher.
- More and more students forced into larger class sizes. Teaching 30,40 + kids at once is absurd for most topics.
- Parents are increasingly a fricking nightmare.
- Students are increasingly a fricking nightmare.
- Students who never pass a single class just coast through the system so you have high schoolers operating at a grade school level fricking up class for everyone else.
- Illegals being dumped into classrooms who speak no English and have never been in school before fricking up class for everyone.
- Absurd amount of bureaucracy they are forced to navigate in their jobs.
I'll add one more: they aren't respected by many.
There are scores of people like the OP who don't think their job is difficult, but I can't imagine teaching math to 40-50 NBR kids being anything short of a nightmare.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:56 pm to 123perschall
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All they do is indoctrination not teaching
This is a ridiculous blanket statement that isn't true of most teachers.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 11:11 pm to LordSaintly
Class size is a bullthite narrative created to get more teachers hired by the unions.
The real problem:
I suggest your wives start talking to their female friends. Decades, this has been going on.
The real problem:
quote:
- Parents are increasingly a fricking nightmare.
quote:
- Illegals being dumped into classrooms who speak no English
I suggest your wives start talking to their female friends. Decades, this has been going on.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 11:35 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
I’m engaged to a teacher and you can’t be more wrong. Schools and administrators pander to shitty parents and don’t support the teachers. They don’t want to hurt shite For Brains Little Johnny’s feelings. Teachers are expected to rear children these days because the parents don’t want to do it….and then there is the bullshite of dealing with unqualified administrators who got their Masters from Acapella University
Posted on 3/10/24 at 11:45 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
First he wants to pay off student debt and now he wants to make costs of education go higher via increased salaries for teachers? Da fuq?
Posted on 3/10/24 at 11:52 pm to plazadweller
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Acapella University
That was BS. You know you have idiot teachers and admins that came from Texas Tech, SLU, Ole Miss, Texas State, etc.
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parents don’t want to do it
Wait, is there a theme developing?
Posted on 3/11/24 at 12:00 am to LemmyLives
Yes the parents are absolutely a major reason for this.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 12:12 am to LordSaintly
Seems as though has OP never experienced a JR/HS coach - say a FB or BB coach, breathing down their neck after 3p on weekdays, some nights, and some weekends. These folks are teachers.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 12:18 am to Cajun Tiger 4
And they can retire at 52 with huge arse pension until they die. Which is in fact unfunded and unsustainable.
This post was edited on 3/11/24 at 12:29 am
Posted on 3/11/24 at 12:25 am to LordSaintly
I was being rhetorical. I know where the problem is. It's always mostly the parents.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 12:27 am to Lynxrufus2012
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Teachers grade papers, make lesson plans, pull bus duty, prepare tests, grade tests, all after hours. I have no problem with them making more. I just don’t want federal strings attached.
I was in sales for 30 yrs and I always did projects, put proposals together, wrote the copy for commercials, submitted them to production, quarterly projections, weekly sales projections, expense reports, etc at home in the evngs/night. Teachers make more than the avg salary of others & can retire in early 50s drawing several thousand/mth while the rest of the people work until mid 60s & lucky to draw $1000-1500 of social security. When teachers lose pensions and get SS instead then they would be praying that they had shut up & instead have been grateful for how blessed they are.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 12:28 am to LSUAngelHere1
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And they can retire at 52 with huge arse pension until they die. Which is fact is unfunded and unsustainable.
So, fire teachers that suck, or increase taxes?
And, how to you measure teachers on how their students learn, to cut through the excuses of it's my students, it's their parents, my students families don't make enough, my students are BIPOC, etc?
Oh, we never will. Just tax more.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 5:35 am to 123perschall
Some of you pearl clutcher are killing me. Are we talking about the teachers where not one kid from a Balitmore High School had senior level skills but many "graduated" just the same, not one friggin kid, in a district where they are spending 20 grand per student???????
The two major teachers unions donated 32 million in political campaigns this last cycle with over 90% going to dems, and there were milllions and millions of covid and build back better dollars that found their way into their coffers at the same time.
The two major teachers unions donated 32 million in political campaigns this last cycle with over 90% going to dems, and there were milllions and millions of covid and build back better dollars that found their way into their coffers at the same time.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 5:47 am to Cajun Tiger 4
This would go over better on the OT.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 5:49 am to Cajun Tiger 4
quote:If it improves quality, I'd be all for it. The problem though is that all too often "Give the teachers a raise" translates to equal money allotted across the board, regardless of performance or effort.
I think they are paid pretty well for what they do. They get off at 3pm. They have long holidays off and the whole summer! They chose that career. Quit crying about this. They have great benefits too.
So a math teacher notoriously focused on woke ideology, social justice, and drag queen presentations while his class badly underperforms in math is given the same money as his colleague who's been voted teacher of the year 5 successive times.
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